Has anyone used the new Innuos 2.0 Sense music app? Compared it to Roon?


I compared the two as I am a lifetime Roon customer.  I prefer the sound of the new Innuos Sense music app.  More natural and less electronic or digital sounding.  Not day and night, but better. My big issue is Innuos Sense does not seem to keep playing music, like Roon, when the album is complete.  Roon had a Radio switch that played artists similar to the artist as a continuous stream and I loved it.  Heard many new artists I loved this way.  
Anyone know if Innuos Sense has a similar setting? I can’t seem to find it. 
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@thyname Thanks for sharing your impressions. I recently bought a Zenith MK3, and to be honest one of the main reasons was all the great things I heard about the new version of Sense. I totally agree that the user experience on Sense is miles behind Roon. Not even close. I, too, am unable to hear much of a difference between the two from an SQ perspective. The most glaring omission in Sense is the lack of radio functionality ala Roon. I think this is one of the best features of Roon and I sorely miss it in Sense. I also miss reading the album or artist bio, plus the ’like’ suggestion.

By the way, are you using Zenith as Roon core, or do you have a separate server? Currently, I’m using SGC Sonic Transporter i5 as Roon core, and it has worked flawlessly. Just wondering if Zenith serving as Roon Core is good enough. I do use Roon DSP to upsample to DSD every now and then, and actually like the sound. I wouldn’t mind selling the Sonic Transporter and free up cash to splurge spend on other audio goodies. But only if there’s no degradation in performance.

And finally, happy turkey day, everyone!

 

I tried the Squeezelite Roon Core option, but Roon won't recognize my DAC (Luxman DA-06) which is connected to the Zenith. In my Roon iphone app, I am able to connect to Zenith, but when I click on Manage audio devices, it's not able to connect to my DAC. The funny thing is that the DAC is listed under the 'Connected to Core' section in the Audio menu, but it also says Device not found at the same time. 

 

 

 

@thyname That worked like a charm! Thank you again. 

However, I ran into another issue after using Squeezelite setting. When I try to play a DSD 128 file from my Zenith SSD, Roon converts it to PCM. Not only that it continues to down-convert it from 64 to 24 bit. The sound quality is seriously degraded. I have the Native DSD setting checked in Innuos. I will post the question on Roon forums but though I'd share it here as well in case someone else has faced the same problem.

@thyname Thanks once again. What I found out was that Innuos's Squeezelite version only supports up to DSD 64. I can clearly hear the difference between 64 and 128. Anyway, I'm now using Zenith as the 'regular' Roon core, and it works like a charm. Thanks for your assistance.

By the way, I tried to swap back and forth between sonicTrasporter i5 and Zenith as Roon cores, and honestly I can't tell any difference. They both sound fantastic. Also, maybe I'm in the minority here but I actually prefer Roon 1.8 (SQ-wise) to Sense 2.0. It is a bit fuller and I kinda like it. Sense is probably more neutral/accurate, and I can see how someone else might prefer it over Roon. Both are excellent, it's really a matter of preference at this point.

Now I'm trying to figure out how to 'merge' (not replace) music from sonicTransporter's Roon core to Zenith such that it does not replace what I already have in Zenith, but simply add on top of what already exists. 

I posted my query on Roon forums ...

 

Thanks @thyname . I tried the solution you posted above, but for whatever reason the files won't show up in Roon. I tried another workaround using Soundiiz that worked quite well actually. From within Roon, I exported the playlists and albums into a Soundiiz-compatible CSV format. Then using Soundiiz, I imported them into Qobuz. All my playlists and albums now show up in Roon. Your help is much appreciated.