Has anyone listened to Legacy speakers?

No I am not but thank you for asking...I think I know the pair you may be offering and believe they are the pair I heard in STL(?). Regardless, I loved how they sounded and what they did but I do not want to embark on a path that commits me to all that additional speaker weight (have to reinforce floor joists in 2nd floor listening room for best effect with a speaker of that mass) and 6 channels of amplification plus subs to give them a proper home. Thank you for offering....

Tobb: You could not be more right about your last statement regarding the pound for pound and dollar for dollar analogy on Legacy speakers and what Bill D. brings to the table for all of us who truly love listening to musical and exciting speakers. I've owned several generations of Legacy speakers since 2006 for 7.1 and 5.1 home theater + 2-channel and since moving to pure 2-channel in 2008-2009, I have centered my entire system on Focus HDs followed by my current Focus SEs that I've had since March 2010. With proper speaker, interconnect and power cables on my system, I have been able to extract sound out of my Focus SEs that vastly exceeds any expectations I could have had and also eclipses many more vaunted and expensive speakers and setups i have heard in various venues over the last 7 years. The entire line of speakers is special in what they deliver and the value that comes with Legacy's realistic pricing. As of the last 6 months or so I've had the good fortune to spend 4 listening sessions with the new Aeris, 2 with the latest Whispers and 1 with Helix. I am now contemplating my next multi-year speaker and it is looking to be AERIS (or the potential for Whisper with integrated subs) so the fun continues!

Tobb: Thanks for letting me know these are not the pair from STL (I put '(?)' as I was not sure). I am confused on one point however and that is the spec. for AERIS is similar to Focus SE (around the 200 lb) mark and the Helix is listed at 320 lbs per side. How is this only a 10% difference?

Please also look at my post where I said that I would have to reinforce floor joists in MY 2nd floor listening room 'for best effect'; I meant two things, (1) that much has to do with how my room is constructed currently and (2) for BEST effect I would do it, not because it is mandatory.

Thanks for letting me know that only 4 channels are needed and not 6. I thought I had seen 2 pair (1 on Audiogon and one under review posted online) with 6 channels of amplification, one of them using a very expensive array of Wavac tube amps; so if I've made a mistake viz. the current design of the speaker, it was definitely unintentional! Your for-sale ad lists 3 pair of binding post per speaker so it might help to list out the options for amplification be it 4 or 6 for any prospective buyer.

Insofar as subs, I wondered the same thing myself but the last owner of Helix I spoke with and listened to them in his home stood by the fact that subs were best. At any rate, I had no intention of introducing confusion here.

Thanks again! Where are you located? If your Helix are the forerunner(...) I may fly up and take a listen.

Thanks Tobb....that makes sense. Have a great day!

Thanks Tobb, looks like 4-channels are needed in the current build generation. The ones online with 6-channels of Wavac amplification, etc...that I saw must have been custom build or 1st generation.

Tobb: While I agree with you that you ultimately will not know what an active speaker truly sounds like until it is dialed into the room that is to be its home, I do not agree that if you hear something in a demo environment (where the speaker is properly dialed in) that it is 'utter nonsense'.

The same point can be made for any speaker or for any component for that matter in that you never truly know what a pair of passive speakers would do either until you get them into the room where they will live and hear them properly setup and broken in with the full list of components, cables, power, etc...that will drive them.

Good multi-hour, well thought out and personal source-material driven, demo listening sessions serve a certain amount of good in that you know if the speaker MAY be one that you would like but its impractical to think that we should skip these experiences (not what you said above, I realize....) as they would be useless in terms of time, effort and what we hear.

Having sat through the dialing in sessions on Aeris and Whisper several times with Legacy and helping friends dial in a pair of Whispers and Helix, I definitely agree that a great calibration and dialing-in session with the new processor does wonders and can make these speakers sound great in any room!

Thanks for all the info on the pair of speakers you are selling and your experiences in the more general sense. Can you send me an Audiogon in-mail with a phone number where I can contact you? Thanks!