Has anyone heard the new OPPO BDP-83SE

Albertporter

Albert, what about it's SD DVD action? SACD? DVDA?

Those are the added facets I'm seeking in my upcoming buy of the BDP 83... the SE versions added analog out performance enhancement for 2, 5.1, & 7.1 aren't hot buttons for me.

My current video setup doesn't allow for 1080p, only 720P, and BR aren't my main concerns, but what the hey... so if the video playback and higher res audio are really good, I suppose I'd still be interestedd in the 83 model.

I'll be using HDMI primarily, but for THE ONCE IN A WHILE CDs I'd run into a Bel Canto DAC3 via SPDIF.

I'd appreciate your thoughts there. Thank you very much.

Thanks Albert. Thanks a lot. That’ll work.

Video is the only real concern for me presently, albeit, the added formats of BR, SACD, & DVDA are attractive, as I lost my SACD by selling my SCD xa777 when my personal confuser finally was doing as good & better more often than not with red book.. and continues to improve upon it.

Kdibello
BTW... THE SE MOD FOR THE OPPO BDP 83 PRICE OF $299 IS GOOD ONLY FOR THOSE OWNERS WHO BOUGHT AN 83 PRIOR TO NOV. 9, 2009.....

according to the Oppo website.

Lastly, When does a factory upgraded component lose value? It hasn’t been ‘modded’ if the factory did the alterations.

Although a then modded piece in perhaps the broadest of terms , if done by the original manufacturer I'd say that does not count as a modded piece if or when a resale of the item arises.... especially if the paper work is kept too. The item has been enhanced either way maybe, but the factory enhancements are designed to uplift the units performance while maintaining it’s operational stability and longevity. Addditionally it’s been my experience these factory ‘gains’ are supported thereafter for some usually specified projected time frame.

It should be as much a plus as any other factory offered upgrades or configurations, could demand by virtue of their own original costs. Oppo is not alone on the 'factory offered upgrade' route.

there needs be some common sense applied at some point to this idea of modifications, upgrades, or added features done to a product especially when the manufacturer has done them, as opposed to those done by non factory alternative means.

I know from speaking with Oppo tech support personally a year or so ago, if I were to have my Oppo DVD player modded by some alternative specialist regardless the pro doing the mods, or where in the device the mods were done, and the unit needed service, the FIRST thing Oppo does is reconvert the modded piece BACK to it's standard status before fixing the unit and returning it to the customer.

Consequently your uber expensive mod is nullified and you're back to square one.

I haven't spoken with every maker offering upgrades, as to their position on reconfiguring modded devices back to stock form upon a service visit, but that makes sense to me simply from the techs point of view. Further, if thereafter the piece remains within the frame of the specified warranty period they could see it again perhaps and it needs to conform then as well.

Either way you look at it, aftermarket alterations not done by the maker are pretty big gambles on a few fronts.

I've no opposition to either route one goes, after market mods or with the maker offered improvements, and each carries some arguable weight. I simply feel 'mods' per se are not mods if done by the original manufactuer as they are factory offered upgrades and in no way should these sorts of things ever be considered with the veil mods more commonly are associated with so casually.

Never, never, should they constitute some lesser resale price than would be their going rates at their time of resale, should that instance occur.

Well, I suppose Oppo will allow anyone to update their 83 later on for the difference between the SE and std versions following the cut off date to save the $100, right?

My thinking here on all of this is so..... yeah, a Ben Franklin is a Ben Franklin... for sure.

also, to date oppo has a business ethic or plan, which says, 'extreme overachiever' from their very start.

Didn't nearly everyone who had any exp with the modestly priced value orieinted units initially produced just go cats & critters over the next upcoming launch, well before that ever happened?

it too turned out well indeed when the std 83 was shipped.

then too the Blue Ray oppo made and sent along to it's subscrived owner base, and that went along quite well too, and bugs were fixed and so forth prior to the public insertino of the BDP 83.

So to date, each step forward Oppo has done has been a well thought out, careful step onward and upward. Each occassion has shown itself as both a performer and value laden proposition.

Why then, should this next, upgrade be any different?

consider this... it's done, one of us says "heres what i am finding out ...." in likely a premature run in period, or even if run in (and God knows how that could happen in so short a time), then what?

We are then where we usually are... hearing a piece with someone else' ears, in a system dissimilar from our own.

pretty much just like always.

What's it sound like?

Then the prerequisite folow up Q's, and preponderances of system ambiguities.

I'd bet more heavily on past efforts of Oppo and simply spend the $300 for the upgrade.... if you find yourself chosing to use hundreds or thousands of bucks for analog cabling and can't or wont, use HDMI.

one might also think to take the $300 upgrade costs or the $400 later ones, and apply them to a better AV proc using HDMI 'IF' there is little or no faith presently for this stepped up analog enhancement from Oppo.

I'd not fear my money was not well spent given the OPPO history so far.

If the upgrade is bought.... MAKE NUMEROUS COPIES OF ALL THE PAPERWORK AND KEEP THEM IN THE ORIG BOXE!!

SOMEONE most likely will figure out a way to coin that sticker further on down the road, so for no mistakes, keeping on the up & up, SAVE THAT PAPER WORK!

The last thought is, if you already got a better CDP and/or DAC... why bother with this upgrade?

Affejunge

How many hours of playback do you have on the SACD DACs? Are you running out PCM or DSD on your '83?

SACD on my previous Sony SCD xa777 had to be run in seperately . It used separate DACs for both SACD & CD, separate lasers too.

I'd answer your question with one word... accuracy. Another is resolution. With some exceptions, the more you spend the closer you get to the truth in the recording.

The trick, if there is one, and I feel there is, will be to gain both resolving and involving... at that point quit following the shampoo instructions..., Listen, buy something else, repeat.

Just listen for the pleasure of it.

Then in a year or two, get another bottle of shampoo.

Mark.

>>Why can't they offer the upgrade to anyone, in the future, say for the cost difference between the two, 400 bucks.<<

I asked that today of Oppo and was told a new version is out, so buy that one instead.... if you want.

No upgrades to sE will come out later for previous BDP 83 owners.... was the message conveyed to me.

I did find out that their warranty is transferable, even if you buy added coverages of the one or two year types. One yr = 49.00; two yr = 69.00.

They've plenty in stock of the std version which I'll order tomorrow. They also said theyve no notions now for upgrading the video'/digital sections in the near future either.

How much good.... Is good enough?