Harbeth again…or other speakers for acoustic music?


Hi!

I’ve been without any decent hifi setup for a few years now but lately had the thoughts of investing in a good system again. Let me tell you little about my background and what I’m searching for. I live in a place far from any hifi-stores, I’ve not so much experience of listening to a lot of different systems or visiting hifi shows, but I’ve been playing music myself, mostly jazz, for about 20 years and have been in many performances both as musician and as audience.

About 5 years ago I first bought a pair of Harbeth P3 second hand along with a Rega amp. Pretty soon I wanted something bigger in scale so I swapped the speakers for a pair of 30.1 and the amp for a Croft 25/7 combo. The sound was really really good in so many ways, best sound and midrange I’ve ever heard before! Even though my apartment back then was not optimal with concrete walls the vocals was very lifelike. But after a while I feeling somehow that something was missing. I’m no bass junkie or so but I was tempted to try something that had little more depth and covered the bass region better, so I was started looking at SHL5+ and C7ES3. I also thought about integration some subs but never tried that route. Swapped the 30.1 for C7 but I was immediately disappointed. I never got them to sound good at my place. I thought they lacked the magic I felt 30.1 had.

 

I ended up selling all my gear, but the sound of 30.1 and Croft combo really etched back in my mind. It was more emotional to listen to music as I ever before had experienced. I prefer listen to acoustic music, jazz, small groups ensembles but occasional big band and some lighter pop, but looking for something that excells with vocals and acoustic instruments. It can absolutely be little on the warmer sound, I can’t stand harsh and cold sound.


So now I’m looking for a system again and would like to hear what suggestions you have. I listen to low to modest volumes. No heavy rock or metal. I need something that can play good on low volume. HE speakers and a SET amp would be an alternative but also is Harbeth. I know there’s 30.2 now and XD. Integrating with subs could be Ok. My living room is about 15x12 feet and the speakers cannot be to big and dominant, ex Quad ESL is not an option. There is a few softer walls and I think 1 concrete wall.

 

Happy to hear your thoughts..

philsons

Showing 2 responses by timo62

philsons,

In a perfect world , the Harbeth M40.1 , or M40.2 would be your next best logical choice to try. This is considering the fact that you really enjoyed the Harbeth 30.1 sound and are looking for something that has little more depth and covered the bass region better.

The M40s is just a larger version of the M30s. As you stated you have a smaller room and are not looking to place large speakers in your listening rooms , so I would imagine the Harbeth M40s would be too large. 

 

Since you really enjoyed the M30.1 ,  it might be worth trying to integrate a sub with them.

The Harbeth SHL5+ do have a more full range sound and would give you that lower bass extension with the Harbeth house sound. They do sound different from the M40s and M30s though. It would be something you would have to try to learn if you would enjoy them. Probably better to find a used pair in mint condition ,so you could sell without having a big loss ,if they were not to you liking.

philsons,

 

The SLH5+ are great with Jazz and Acoustical ensembles. They do have a different sound compared to the M30.1. The SLH5+ will give you a full range sound with that added lower end extension that you seek.

 I personally found the SLH5+ to be a little too lively, or extended up top for my liking. They sounded great to me at first , but after a while it sounds a little bright to my ears compared to the M30.1s. Results may vary. A lot of owners love them and feel they sound sweet.

I had the M30.1s for about a year and then I upgraded to the M40.2s. Much like yourself, I really enjoyed the M30.1s , but missed that full range sound.

I did not try to add a sub with the M30.1s though. It can be done , but it takes time and patience to dial them in to your liking. I just went strait to the M40 instead.

There are currently a couple of Harbeth Facebook groups that you could inquire about to any of the M30 owners with their experience using subs with them.