Gryphon vs Swiss solid state amps and preamps. And integrateds.

George, you may be right. I would certainly ask Gryphon if I were ready to buy. One day, I hope.

ebm, don't bother, you can't afford them.

By the way, if you buy Gryphon from overseas, they will not service it in the US, I talked to Gryphon US office, you would have to ship it to Gryphon in Denmark. Even voltage conversion is out of the question.

Paying $45k for any integrated cannot possibly be my idea under any circumstances. I didn't compare those two that you mentioned and I don't believe in anyone's hearing and objectivity unless I know this person, so this is meaningless to me. Your language only confirms my position.
Yes sure, I would prefer used Antillion. Most used Gryphons that I see are in Europe or Asia, different voltage.
Don't know what speakers. I would want to have as much current and power as needed for total control and effortless presentation.

Jafant, yes, I read about them. But I have faith in Gryphon, not sure why. I also watched many interviews with Flemming, he mostly sounded right to me, though his music preferences seemed to be to large extend different from mine, but not contradictory to mine. He said he generally liked large scale music.
Far be it from me to even think about buying new Gryphon power amp - that's incredible cost, no only used if I am lucky. New Diablo 300 integrated to use as power amp..might be possible if I decided to finance this purchase. I have never financed audiophile purchases before but in this case we'll see.

Very possibly. Also Lamm hybrid, Nagra, Ypsilon hybrid.
I come from a slightly different angle. Is there any reason not to get Gryphon for solid state amplification ? Cost aside. They should work very well with almost any speakers. As for phono stage and preamp I would want tubes. That’s the general idea for a completely new system that would last me.. a very long time. It would take me quite some time to build too but it would be worth it.

Gryphon chief designer Flemming Rasmussen has retired this year after 33 or so years at the helm. We’ll see what happens next.

Interested in top level, that's why. This includes reliability and longevity. I heard, maybe others can verify it, that Gryphon products are designed and built to operate flawlessly for 40 years under normal conditions. Of course, a few will break from time to time, as everything else.