Great network streamers with only USB outputs


I'm looking to upgrade my streaming from a Logitech Transporter to something a bit more hi-end.

Problem is most of my choices have USB outputs only. My DAC Bel Canto 3.7 (recently upgraded by Ace Tomato) Doesn't support USB. All of a sudden it seems like manufacturers are putting usb outs only. I'm looking at Sonore Rendu & Innuos products mainly because I will be able to keep the Squeezebox ecosystem with these products, and they both appear to be of good quality. Some of the Innuos products do provide Spdif out, but they have internal DACs, which I'm not interested in.

Now I'm longing for a DAC that supports USB. maybe the Bel Canto 2.7 which I'm not sure if it will be better than my Bel Canto 3.7 with upgraded power supply etc.

Do USB converters degrade the audio signal ? Do I have to search  out and expensive USB to SPDIF converter ?

I wonder what others are doing with older type DACs that they love ?

The Sonore Rendu setup looks real hi-end. Seems they have really taken the time to clean up the digital audio signal. I would really like to go that route. Their USB to SPDIF converter costs $500usd.

Please don't bother recommending other streamers which take me out of the Squeezebox LMS ecosystem.

Maybe tell me about your work around for USB out only devices. Perhaps someone can give me a comparisons on the Bel Canto 3.7 to the Bel Canto 2.7. I love Bel canto and might just change DACs. As the 2.7 is more future proof.

Thanks for any input you may be able to provide.

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@krell_fan1 , thanks Krell, I'm into the Antipodes world of streaming/Servers.

This is such a beautiful unit. I was fortunate to get it in mint condition. all the original boxes and paperwork.

Still in the learning process, but thankfully Antipodes has excellent support.

@tvad Thanks, but I'm not sure they all use a squeezebox interface. The main reason I'm sticking with LMS end point is , its a nice open source ecosystem. It's been around for over a decade and it's always being updated.

@carlsbad2 I hear you on Bel Canto not building DACs with USB, but it seems they are in the practice now.

As I looked into the Sonore Rendu... So many boxes needing power supplies. Doesn't take long to get the price tag past $2500.

I've heard amazing things about Grimm MU1 streamer, but that is a major jump up in price.

 

@tvad Yes I know that. Pulse Mini seems more affordable than Pulse, but without linear power supply. I like that Innuos lets you use Squeezebox interface and easily flip over to their own Sense app, which I hear is very good. Just haven't heard that its a huge step up from my Transporter for the price. I found someone selling Pulsemini + Linear power supply for $1400usd. Again feeling like its a lateral move right now. I'm trying to dig down on this....

Anyone understand the Sonore stuff ??

Would I be able to run Squeezelite on Sonore Signature Series Ethernet to Spdif Render ? I can handle tech, but ZI have to admit I'm starting to get confused, that is why I've looked at Innuos.

 

@tvad Wow, you have had the gamut of streamers. Lots of those streamers are next level pricing, except for the Rendu and Innuos. Thanks so much for your insight.

@mazian I'm lookin' at the DS-3 with upgraded 4TB SSD drives. I think it has a SPDIF output also. Can't find many reviews online.

Found a Antipodes with 4TB ssd streamer in my price range. Company seems to have a good rep.

@mazian  Appears to only have USB out on it. Perhaps it would be worth get a USB converter.

@tvad Always had the Holo Red in my mind. decent price, great reviews.

@ivickery I looked into the Bel Canto OS (Seek) didn't interest me.

I'm looking into using a Bryston BUC-1 - USB-Spdif/AES/BNC converter.

Not ideal, but probably won't gegrade signal much.

Update:

I've purchased a Antipodes DS-3 recently upgraded by the company in 2020 with 4TB SSD drives among other things. This unit does have a Spdif output, despite the company suggesting to use USB.

I paid $550usd + S booster linear power supply $185usd

The seller told me it sounds great using LMS, better than Roon end point.

Antipodes has a very robust support team. They will walk you through everything as you navigate the system.

This company has a great reputation, I'm extremely happy to have got this for a decent price.

I wasn't even looking for storage space, let alone 4TB worth.

I'll follow up with sound. I'm receiving it tomorrow.

@soix btw Soix, I have the most updated version of Bel Canto 3.7 power supply. I got it upgraded from the VBS1 to a VBL(Linear). I lost the 3 connections for only one, didn't need a 3 connection setup. Dac also go a reference upgrade, I couldn't afford the "Statement" upgrade.

All modified by ACE Tomato (formerly of Bel Canto) He has been a blessing to me. Honest tech.

 

I’m hoping to get to know the staff at Antipodes. I’m having issues...... Unlike many companies, I was able to book an appt with Antipodes. Talk about next level...

cheers

@mitch2 @v-fi , I didn't find a few of USB converters for sale. Bryston BUC and 2 Bel Canto converters, ULink & RefLink

Just put it on hold for now. I'll ask about this with the tech from Antipodes tonight.

I feel like less in the chain is best. I'm going Spdif out of the Antipodes directly to my Bel Canto DAC. I really don't think my ears will pick up on the differences I'm getting from my Server/Streamer. I'm trying to keep the music chain a streamlined as possible.