Graham Phantom vs Triplaner


Wondering about the sonic traits of both these arms compared to each other.

- which one has deeper bass,
- which one has the warmer (relative) balance
- which one is compatible with more cartridges
- which one has the better more organic midrange
- which one has the greater treble detail.
- which one plays music better ( yes this is a more subjective question ).
- which one goes better with say the TW acoustic raven TT.
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Showing 12 responses by zieman

Mr Mai does not give or loan tonearms. There were so many at CES this and every year because the people in this business want the very best to demo their product. They pick Triplanar. With their wallets! Z.
Guys, I have spent alot of time with Mr Mai. He seems to have a reason for the trade offs he takes to make his price point. He has the engineering, design, and manufacturing experience to be placed (by others) at the pinnacle of a select group. Most rags and table mfgrs use SME, GRAHAM and TRIPLANAR in the same sentence when discussing "the best". I watched the owner of PAD bring Tri a cable to take and listen/critique. His opinion is obviously highly valued in the biz.

I have also noticed more HRXs than one might think one would at CES. At last count there are 84 TT mfgrs. Harry sells all he makes, doesn't have review tables much, so again dealers and MFGRS go into their own pockets to use this table at shows. Does this make either of these the best? No, but it says something...
D, I forget which room I saw the rim in, but the two guys sharing the room were giggling like little school girls. Just loved the thing. These two guys probably made/make more VPI converts than VPI dealers! I have several "highlight" memories from this year and these two... Well ya just had to be there. Not the prettiest thing. Kind of contrasts with the HRX sex appeal, if you know what I mean. How's that PDF coming? Z
Larry, Yes, Mr Wilson puts the stuff out there. He can afford it. Or can't afford not to. Mr Mai cannot afford to give or loan. Yes, it is probably the most idiot proof design out there, works with anything, and does not cost the moon. Sounds like a good recipe to me. All that, and a great guy to do business with. Sign me up! Z.
D, Harry is one of this industries true characters. Loves hi-fi. Loves to make stuff. I am actually a bit concerned that retirement looms. I could be wrong, since for the first time in a long time, VPI was present at a show. Sheila was manning a little table in the room Grundman was hanging out in. At The Show. I bought one of his very first products, a suspended plinth and base for a Denon DD motor. This was 1981, I think. I like the work in progress thing, as harry doesn't have the formal education that obviously isn't required if one keeps an ear to the ground and an open mind (I'm thinking of a member withOUT these attributes). The flip side to this is an upgrade program. Great for dealers and end users alike. See if you can get that sprocket painted gloss black. Might look OK. LMK. Z.
Sir, HUH? From what band? The comedian? Bill Maher, maybe. But I am a Republican. Plus, I write my own stuff. HA! I did it again! Onhwy is watching, so I have to be good. Jou got to splain it to me! (couldn't resist) Hey, I have something, give me a multisyllabic for DM's brand/flavor of comedy.

Down, Can I also mooch the 20/12 review? Please? It is too late now to go to Barnes & Noble, read it, then put it back on the rack.

Thomas, According to the comparo I just read, you are WAY non de rigeur. I would be willing, buddy, to help you out here; get a TT that accommodates a 12, and I send you a few bucks for the Basis. Just a peek at the altruist that is the ZIEMAN! LMK buddy, LMK. Z.
Right on Larry. The time I spent with AJ this year was a hoot! BTW, he owns a company called Basis. He makes turntables. VERY good turntables. SOTA, even. Logic dictates, his Vector follows suit. Couldn't agree more on the "best" issue, ( I quote mfgrs and rags in my statement that "three arms are mentioned...) But as you may have noticed, I do take exception to the close minded, the arrogant and the stubborn. Proposing that the best one can afford is "best" is, well, ignorance. No bueno. The best one can afford is nothing more, and nothing less, than the best one can afford. You also nailed it, as far as the basic character remaining. Tuning and tweaking are the finishing touches, not night and day. Finite changes mean much more at the tippy top. A quality arm design will, in fact, accommodate many, many, carts. The three that are always mentioned meet this design parameter, absolutely. Z.
D, These guys must have been on herron. HA! There I go, cracking myself up again. The improvement has to be huge, judging by the way these two were carrying on. They weren't working or showing product. They were over the moon showing everybody something they DON'T sell! I want an HRX! THX for the review. Do you also have the issue with the 312S? Z.
I have to commend Thomas on the observation that Triplanar has done the homework on supplied cable. This arm may have no equal here. Mr. Mai may once again have the inside dope seeing the onslaught of nude (lighter) carts available and coming. Seems the entire Benz line will be nude. Now if I can just get him to build me a 12... Z.
D, My bad. I was looking for a title reading 312S review. I mostly just look at the pictures anyway...

Thomas, I hope I had nothing to do with your whining. For some reason everybody was in a very special mood this year. I had the best time in many years, and if it's OK with you I would like to share with the guys not able to attend. If you are amazed when you learn something new, you should feel grateful. And maybe say "thank you". Looks like you have a pretty decent system there, nothing to "whine" about. You could do with a speaker upgrade, but couldn't we all? Perhaps it's a language thing , I'm not really sure I understand your post. Did you have a point you wanted to make? Z
Sir, I know you added extra letters to anal, to be nice. Thanks. Perceptive. Analytical plus funny = smartass- get it? HA! How do I come up with this stuff!! Z