Graham Phantom vs Triplaner


Wondering about the sonic traits of both these arms compared to each other.

- which one has deeper bass,
- which one has the warmer (relative) balance
- which one is compatible with more cartridges
- which one has the better more organic midrange
- which one has the greater treble detail.
- which one plays music better ( yes this is a more subjective question ).
- which one goes better with say the TW acoustic raven TT.
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Showing 6 responses by thomasheisig

It is normal, that one or the other has some favorites and lets be honest:
When there would be THE perfect Arm (I know, I know, but in Theory... with the perfect Cartridge and the perfect Phonostage ....) and you would ask 10 Audiophiles, do you think, that all 10 would say, YES, THAT's the one!!??
I think they would say "... yes, that's GOOD but ... slow timing ... weak Bass ... too heavy .... too light ... too black... :)

There is a new Arm coming, from Kuzma, with removable Headshell .... "wink wink" Raul next for you :)
Ask 5 Audiophiles and you'll get 6 opinions :)
Each of them has some strenghts and some "weaks", it depends on your cartridge, your Phonostage, Turntable etc. how they will show it to you.
I am always ready to learn, specially about that drift from the Kuzma Airline. I use it for a longer time now, but I never had something like this, but I guess, it is because my TT is level.
That's important too.:)
The Triplanar VII is a excellent unit with its good cable and when using Cartridges below 10gr.
With heavier carts it simply looses information in the high frequency area, it is a bit lifeless and the "airy speed" is not there anymore (compared to other Arms, for example the Phantom, DaVinci or very heavy Arms).
I know, some use this Arm with Koetsus and are happy, but to be honest, what's not there, you can't hear....
The Phantom is much better in this, based on its very heavy block, it can handle lots of different cartridges (I used a few from 4-14gr) at a superior level.
To the sound
I like the Triplanar, it is good to listen to.
The Graham Arm is very precise and the results can vary based on the connected Phono cable. The differences can be huge (I tried XLO Sign., Siltech, Purist, IC-70 Graham Phono, Kondo Phono cables and some others with it).
The Phantom has a excellent frequency range, linked with an absolutely amazing Speed in the lower range.
With the XV-1s a amazing trip into dynamic reproduction.
I am amazed from some "experiences" here, because some say - and think - that most of socalled Top Arms today are more or less close, sound more or less close, too and the differences depend on tweaks .... etc.
Well, I had (or have) the Tri VII, Phantom, Schroeder, SME V, Air Line, Graham 2.0/2.2 and some others here and compared them.
Their differences are not subtle, sometimes they are huge.
When some can not hear that, it is no problem, then they have probably speakers or electronics which is not able to do the task.
I had no problems to find out that some lack detail, or have problems to hold the Setting, or have problems with the bearing in combination with some cartridges.... and so on ....
Thank you about the information that all manufacturers are so nice and friendly. I whined after reading that.
The world is good :)
The Triplanar VII is a excellent unit with its good cable and when using Cartridges below 10gr.
With heavier carts it simply looses information in the high frequency area, it is a bit lifeless and the "airy speed" is not there anymore (compared to other Arms, for example the Phantom, DaVinci or very heavy Arms).
I know, some use this Arm with Koetsus and are happy, but to be honest, what's not there, you can't hear....
It simply can't compare to the next in this case.

The Phantom is much better in this, based on its very heavy block, it can handle lots of different cartridges (I used a few from 4-14gr) at a superior level.
The Adjustments are outstanding and Bob Graham made with this Design a major step forward. Very innovative and no weak points (except possible mismatches with wire or colored turntables)

The DaVinci is remarkable, because it works with every cartridge I tried (from 4gr-14gr) on maximum level. Comparable to the Phantom, but with a little bit different sound.

To the sound
I like the Triplanar, it is good to listen to. With the right cartridge it goes out of way.

The Phantom Arm is very precise and the results can vary based on the connected Phono cable. The differences can be huge (I tried XLO Sign., Siltech, Purist, IC-70 Graham Phono, Kondo Phono cables and some others with it).
The Phantom has an excellent - complete - frequency range, linked with an absolutely amazing holographic Speed in the lower Frequencies. Very precise, super soundstage, the right height and body...
You get what you feed (can be negative too)

The DaVinci is the right one for the LISTENER, wide and deep soundstage, a relaxed and precise reproduction with all information that the cartridge can give.
A Sit-back-and-refuse-to-stand-up-Arm.
Record after Record ....

For me one of the great Arms out there. Heavy, good Arm material, top bearing ... Unfortunately very expensive, but compared to others, the Buyer won't be disappointed. Even after long time listening to it.

There is no final Arm out there, but the last two are a Ticket to sonic satisfaction....