I found the IRS guidance on how to file this 1099-K. Looks like there is a spot for it on form 1040. And if you took a loss, you don't get to write it off. As we thought.
got my PayPal 1099 /// what now?
I assume I owe income tax on any profit I made selling an item, which is probably a loss on most things. Which means I have to show what I paid for the item.
Anybody have any idea on how to go about this. Some things I sold in 2024 I bought over 20 years ago so no way I have proof of purchase. Example.. I sold my 20+ year old Avantgarde Duos for $7K that I paid $10K for.
PLEASE don’t turn this into a PayPal bashing fest or start preaching about the IRS or tell me how stupid I was to use PayPal.
I am only interested in ideas on dealing with the tax implications
thanks
You got to love how this works. This is like triple dipping for the IRS.
So I buy something with my after tax money. The item I buy, has tax on it that I have to pay. So I've already paid a lot of tax on this purchase technically. Now when I go to sell it, I'm getting taxed again if it's over a certain threshold. Even if I am selling it at a loss, the government still wants to tax me for the item that was already mine that I paid taxes on that I paid with money that had been taxed already. That whole lot of taxes. Then I will buy something else that I will have to pay taxes on also. The IRS is a government-funded program that is paid for by my taxes. To make sure I pay my fair share of taxes. .... |
there's a Wall Street Journal article about this. Etsy, eBay or StubHub Sellers: Expect a 1099-K From the IRS This Tax Season - WSJ If you don't subscribe, here's a relevant paragraph. The tax rules for selling personal stuff online are different. If you get a 1099-K for something you sold for less than you originally paid, you wouldn’t owe tax, but you would need to disclose it to the IRS. eBay doesn’t know if the stuff you’re selling is your personal property, if you’re selling at a loss or reselling items at a profit. The IRS gives examples of how to account for these sales in the instructions to Schedule 1. There is a new line item on the top of Schedule 1 where you can list any amount received in error or for personal items sold at a loss. |
That is incorrect, You only owe taxes if you had a profit. They want you to show you sold at a loss. If you did , you owe no tax. It has always worked that way for a business. Second hand stores have always owed taxes on things they are reselling. Nothing has changed except for enforcement of laws and rules that have existed for many years
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Something that hasn’t been said here that might help clarify it for some: You are not a business. the tax law was not meant for you. It was designed for those who make their living by reselling on ebay. Have a garage sale and resellers will show up trying to buy anything they can resell for pennies. they will be moving fast and have a truck already half full of junk. But in typical government fashion, they decided to go ahead and tax you if you made a profit, even it it was just luck.
As an aside, I’m not sure what happens if you sell 10 items in 2024. You sold 9 at a loss of a total of $10,000. But you sold one at a profit of $1000. You had a net loss of $9000. I hope they don’t tax you on the $1000 profit. Those of us used fo filling out schedule D for capital gains know that this isn't how it works, we even harvest losses in December to offset gains. But since they aren't letting you use losses to offset income, they may not let you use losses to offset gains made through other sales. Jerry |