First, Ozzy's question: I'm new at this and started my own thread in reponse to one by Ryllau-Speakers ot hang on to for life-my bad
Second, Sean: Most measurement's that I'm familiar with are taken on axis, off axis, etc. and about 1 metre from the speaker. When 'in room' measurements are taken it all boils down to which room? Is it representative of 'my room'? Your advise for stuffing is a well known, time honored treatment for those 'humps' that you allude to but they are NOT present in all rooms in the same way. You can pay several times the cost ot the Legacys and get just as horrible 'in room' results compare to the published frequency responses that most makers get. Some of your better designers use an anechoic chamber to tune their speakers: no room boundaries as all rooms are different. Also, if memory serves me correctly, don't all speakers exhibt that same 'bass hump' when placed in a room where the dimensions are/can be multiples of each other, or something like that? And if so, aren't those types of rooms to be avoided and/or modified as the standing wavelengths are exacerbated?
Sean: Its all subjective. I always trust my ears. I've heard bad sound that took a lot of salesmenship to convince people that they are hearing what isn't there. I've seen firsthand people conned into high priced sales. I've even listened to people trying to convince me that cables, speakers and the like are to be bought and then changed according to how you want it to sound! These apples aren't even from the same tree I live in. As for 'ruthleslly accurate', I'm just touting the ability of my speakers to seemingly have no coloration or signature of their own. Any changes I make upstream are instantly noticed. A bad recording still sounds bad (pop music recorded to RIAA standards), good recordings sound good, and great recordings sound great. I couldn't ask for more.
Second, Sean: Most measurement's that I'm familiar with are taken on axis, off axis, etc. and about 1 metre from the speaker. When 'in room' measurements are taken it all boils down to which room? Is it representative of 'my room'? Your advise for stuffing is a well known, time honored treatment for those 'humps' that you allude to but they are NOT present in all rooms in the same way. You can pay several times the cost ot the Legacys and get just as horrible 'in room' results compare to the published frequency responses that most makers get. Some of your better designers use an anechoic chamber to tune their speakers: no room boundaries as all rooms are different. Also, if memory serves me correctly, don't all speakers exhibt that same 'bass hump' when placed in a room where the dimensions are/can be multiples of each other, or something like that? And if so, aren't those types of rooms to be avoided and/or modified as the standing wavelengths are exacerbated?
Sean: Its all subjective. I always trust my ears. I've heard bad sound that took a lot of salesmenship to convince people that they are hearing what isn't there. I've seen firsthand people conned into high priced sales. I've even listened to people trying to convince me that cables, speakers and the like are to be bought and then changed according to how you want it to sound! These apples aren't even from the same tree I live in. As for 'ruthleslly accurate', I'm just touting the ability of my speakers to seemingly have no coloration or signature of their own. Any changes I make upstream are instantly noticed. A bad recording still sounds bad (pop music recorded to RIAA standards), good recordings sound good, and great recordings sound great. I couldn't ask for more.