Go get out your pitchforks, I’ve done a sacrilegious thing. . .


. . . I’ve added an EQ!

A Loki Max to be exact - and so far, I love it!

I believe in the purist approach for the most part, and I have a main system that that’s all about, but this system, this is my fun house system, but my room acoustics are not great in my living room.  But that doesn’t mean I want crap sound in it either. The wife won’t let me treat the room, but frankly, that isn’t even the main reason I did it. 

The system is basically Klipsch Forte III’s, Balanced Audio VX 3ix pre-amp, ARC balanced V35 tube amp, Bifrost 2 DAC getting sound from a Marantz ND8006 streamer.  I put the EQ between the DAC and the preamp.

It’s dead quiet, and I can’t discern the difference in bypass mode either. 
 

I figured it’s was a lot easier, and cheaper, to add this one component and get the exact sound I want versus going through a bunch of cables or changing out other equipment. 

Soundstage is great, and there doesn’t paper to be any aberrations, but keep in mind this isn’t the most reveling system, another reason I wasn’t too worried about adding an EQ.

All in all, a good investment and make my music more enjoyable!

 

 

last_lemming

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@ bobpyle

I meant when the EQ is set to flat and switched to bypass mode there is no difference in sound or transparence. Obviously once I start messing with the controls and turn off bypass you can certainly hear all the corrections you’ve made.

 

To the others asking about do I change it from song to song, no I do not really. The system sounded really great to begin with and only needed minor alterations to the frequency to sound best in the room, so I adjusted the EQ over several songs I know to be high-quality songs and basically left it like that. Now this doesn’t mean I won’t fiddle with the settings ever, but this is what I found to work best so far. 

No biggie. I got the max because the system is quite nice just as it is and to go and change out a piece of equipment to make a tweak to the sound would be a high stakes (read priced) gamble at this point since I can end up spending thousands and the sound quality might only move laterally once I got the piece of equipment in the house. This isn’t my main critical listening rig, it’s just the rig that I wanna have good tone in timber while I’m doing chores around the house or doing the dishes or having company over; so absolute nuance in timing and soundstage is not required, so I figured, based on the information I had read, at this piece would do what I needed it to do which is tweak specific areas of the frequency response to bring it in line with what I wanted given my limitations. 
 

for instance, I could’ve bought some really expensive cables for the price I paid for the max, and that might’ve worked perfectly, however if I ever move, or ever relocate the equipment , or by another source, I would basically have to start the tweaking process all over again. But with the max it’s just a few tweaks in a few minutes and back to where I was. 

Lewm,

I couldn’t agree more, but it’s the degree of distortion that is really relevant in broadest sense. If you can’t hear it . . . Well. Just because something adds some level of distortion doesn’t make it bad - tubes anyone. (BTW almost all my equipment had tubes).  Technically EVERYTHING makes a difference, the room being a major contributor, so whether you are buying equipment without EQ’s or with it ultimately the signal passes through thousands of capacitor, resistors, tubes (in some cases), and all the small lengths of wire interconnecting that stuff, the end result is all that matters. Many paths to get there, very few definitively wrong answers, because in the end it’s ALL subjective.

 

 

 

 

Xcool,

 

You can’t turn The unit on or off, however you can turn bypass on and off and you can turn and control all the different EQ settings which also have presets, on and off with the remote.  So basically you can sit in your chair and mess with all the different EQ frequencies to get exactly what you want and then save it to a setting so you can recall them at any time should want to adjust it for something else without ever leaving your chair. And yes all the EQ knobs rotate to the different settings when you press the EQ remote, however the audio signal is not flowing through the EQ knobs as I understand it. 
 

All I can say is I’ve always questioned an EQ in the audio chain, but in this system it only makes it better without compromising all the other things that audiophiles love to cherish so much, and if the EQ does compromise the quality of the signal somehow, I can’t hear it.

@ Waytoomuchstuff

 

thanks for the info and vid. I already did the midrange dampened soon after I bought them but I am curious on the soldering required, is it simply soldering to speaker connection wires directly to the crossover?

 

im pretty handy with a soldering iron, I’ve built my own tube amps and such .

Hey, if you’ve voiced your system and there is zero room for improving it or the room then I guess you’re lucky and will never need to upgrade. However, I’ve never been able to achieve perfection, but I got a whole lot closer with one component - go figure! And it only took 5 min.

 

also for those talking about adjusting for ever song, do you change out cables or equipment for every song?  You know you can just adjust it for best overall sound and forget it. Very easy!