From what I gather, my Genesis 2's have the Carver ribbon on them. Anyone certain of this ? Also, does anyone have any information or copies of reviews, or manuals on the Genesis 2 system. Your help is appreciated.
Mark
Mark
Genesis 300 transducers
I recently bought a pair of Genesis 300's. After setting them up in my room and making a bunch of measurements I noticed about a 10dB difference between the right and left speaker around 10kHz. At first I assumed that the tweeters had something funny going on, but after more study I noticed a difference in the planar transducer attachments.
One speaker has a red and black wire coming out of the transducer with two wire connectors connecting it to the wires coming off the cross over. The transducer also has a Bohlender and Graebner sticker on it.
On the other speaker (with lower output) there are no stickers and the wires coming off the transducer are gray and white. These wires are soldered to the wires coming off the crossover with heat shrink on them.
If there are any Genesis 300 owners, or 350's for that matter, out there. Could you tell me which is the original transducer? Also, does anyone have any suggestions on how to balance the sound of these two beasts without buying 2 new RD-48's from parts express?
One speaker has a red and black wire coming out of the transducer with two wire connectors connecting it to the wires coming off the cross over. The transducer also has a Bohlender and Graebner sticker on it.
On the other speaker (with lower output) there are no stickers and the wires coming off the transducer are gray and white. These wires are soldered to the wires coming off the crossover with heat shrink on them.
If there are any Genesis 300 owners, or 350's for that matter, out there. Could you tell me which is the original transducer? Also, does anyone have any suggestions on how to balance the sound of these two beasts without buying 2 new RD-48's from parts express?
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Scvan, I would talk to Christos P. Skaloumbakas about the Genesis 300 speakers. He runs the Greek audiophile society in Greece. He's has the Genesis 300 speakers for like 15 years and knows everything about them. He's also had his Genesis 300 modified. I would talk to him. Here's his website where he talks about the Genesis 300. His system is also on Youtube. I put the links to both below http://cpskal.gr/pop_skal.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ81nYeY_NM |
Svcan, I did find that the BG ribbons enhance the speaker's performance. Although most of the midrange attributes were very similar to the older ribbons, the dynamics and mid bass were improved considerably. For me, this was most notable on something like a firmly plucked bass string or a solo acoustic guitar. |
They can have amazingly focused imaging if well setup. Should be well out into the room and no "soft" traps directly behind. As large line sources, they can make things seem larger than life but, opposite to logic, they can appear smaller the closer you sit, within reason. Personally, I prefer no toe-in to give a deeper stage. I'm still thinking one of the tweeters got polarity reversed. Compare the wiring from one side to the other. You can remove the rear tweeter chamber and the panel behind the tweeters. PITA to stuff in all back in though. I think the different colors just indicate that the ribbons were changed at different times. |
Thanks Ng for the link. Based on the pictures it looks like I have the newer crossovers and I think I have a newer base amp, it is the round one not rectangular. I'm still perplexed about what mid range drivers I have. They have been changed but the different color wires b/w the right and left channel makes me wonder what they are. The thing that disappoints me about these speakers is their lack of imaging. I just bought a bunch of bass traps and diffusers for myself for Christmas, so hopefully that will help. |
Thanks for all the responses. I've determined the speaker with output that is lower has the original Carver driver in it. The other speaker has a newer BG driver. I will probably get around to "upgrading" the carver driver at sometime. I think I will get more bang for my buck by doing some room tweaks to improve reflections and such. Mmcghee, did you notice an improvement when you replace your ribbons with BG ribbons? |
That's easy, the 300's had Carver ribbons, not BG, so neither are origional. I've replaced both RD48's on my 350's and the ones I bought it with were grey/white. Some confusion on whether they were origional or not. The 350's first came with Carver's but 350SE's used BG RD48's along with the full array of tweeters. Fact is, 10 KHz is way above the crossover for those. Not even all the tweeters go all the way up, only one goes over 8K if they followed the II.5 http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/genesis_ii5_loudspeaker_system/index.html Good news is that the tweeters are a lot less $ but you have to get them off GAT. |
