Game Changing Tweak

If I showed you what all is in my system, what it looks like and how it works, you would think it is pure BS. Then when you hear it probably your mind will be unable to make the connection that such seemingly impossible contraptions really are the reason for the incomprehensibly good sound you are hearing. But they are. And no I cannot tell you what or how. Not yet. But with the new meta nano materials research you are kinda sorta onto something.

And please tell me you are not into tweaking your vehicle’s brakes

Oh, the ignorance. Back when I was a Porsche Club of America Driving Instructor and it was time to replace my brakes I went to one of the most experienced Porsche techs in the the US to find out if drilled or slotted rotors might be better than stock. Squire said no, get stock and have them cryo'd. 

Say what??! 

He said they will not only wear longer, but exhibit greater ability to modulate and hold on the verge of lock-up, especially when it counts, when very hot from a lot of laps. Well Squire held the track record and had a long and storied racing history so who was I to argue? I had them cryo'd and used them long enough to know everything he said was true, including the longer brake life.  

For several years it was routine to change brake pads to use the faster response pads for autocross and the higher heat tolerant pads for the track. The brake fluid was also changed to a higher temp. This isn't necessarily something recommended for street use as the higher temp stuff is more hydrophilic, absorbs moisture, and so not great for street use where the fluid is likely not often changed, but perfect for track use where the fluid is changed and higher temp resistance to boiling is much more important. 

Now here's the funny part. I tend not to follow threads that decompose into BS the way this one has but the brake ignorance caught my eye and it was quoted so I had to scroll up to see which boob wrote it and no surprise, it was bluemoodriver.   

This will not register, it never does when the skull is so thick, but any normal person would at this point be so humiliated to have it made so clear  just how far off he is, and go skulk off, never to be heard from again. We can only hope.

I have lurked this forum for a long long while, joined once and was viciously attacked by a select few. Well I am back and now ignore those few.

ROTFLMAO! Your first post:

Junk science.

That was your response to Mahgister, one of the nicest guys around.https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/most-rooms-don-t-need-acoustical-treatment/post?postid=212673...
Later on the same day you posted:

Yep it’s all snake oil. Including room treatments. Snake oil.

These are not taken out of context. These are your complete posts.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/fuses-again/post?postid=2127067#2127067
Later on in the same thread:

Interesting. This is like a pit of vipers.if it works for you wonderful, if not then move on. 

Followed by

Easy to see who the posers and the vipers are.  

 and

Easy to see who the viper is. 

Easy to go to your posting record to see these are indeed accurate quotes. You seem to have a viper fetish.

I was trying to find one that was informative and unfortunately the closest you came was the one where you tried to lecture us by regurgitating a slew of turntable tropes. You got taken to school on that one and rightly so.

I don't usually waste much time with the neuro cases around here but some make a specialty of it and they seem to have spotted that you keep coming back with the same sorry crap just under a different name.

Time to go back to lurking. Please.

fleschler, a man of distinction, writes:

I agree with MillerCarbon more often and rarely with of the naysayers.  

As for the rest of you:

If I removed from my system everything that cannot be adequately explained scientifically to the satisfaction of certain people here my system would degenerate to the point it would be merely clearly superior to theirs. Then if I were to also remove everything they think has to be double-blind proven to work even after being scientifically explained (because, I know, makes no sense- but you never know with these people) minus all that my system would be merely somewhat better, sort of. But not better in the 'whole other realm' 'what were you thinking' 'as if' kind of way it is now. Gape. Drool cup. Rock your world.

All thanks to a bunch of stuff nobody can explain but everyone can easily hear.

Here is a perfect example: https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367
Take a real good look at picture #10. Compare closely with #41 & #42. In particular, pay real close attention to all the boxes and every single wire. Study each one. I am not giving it away. People need to learn to think for a change. There's something very unusual going on that should make anyone with a lick of sense stand up and go WTF?!? But it won't. Because  for all the techno blather of the posers pretending to be all sciency, they don't have the first clue what they're looking at. Follow the wires. Its that simple. 

I spotted it this time last year, or rather pieced it together reading people's comments.

Easy if you know anything about electricity. Otherwise, impossible. Which yes that's a challenge. Put your money where your mouth is. Prove you have half a clue. Point out the puzzling odd whatever. If you can find it.

Talked to the manufacturer, confirmed no one else got it, including even the electricians who installed The Gate, which is another highly effective audio enigma.

You are indeed wise fleschler to go with what you hear and to not worry overly much with what you can explain. Not a one of these guys demanding explanations has the slightest clue what's going on in those photos, so why should we care what they think? 

Seriously. Its right there in the pictures. Figure it out, sciency guys. If you can. 😂

Totally lostinSeattle-

When I say something seems like snake oil I am most certainly NOT saying that my mind is made up,...

Okay... will keep this in mind. Seriously. Will be used later. Read on.

What I AM saying is that when there is no rational basis to accept a manufacturer’s claim as to how something works, and they provide not a shred of what should be easy-to-provide corroborating measurements to demonstrate effectiveness, it makes me highly skeptical.

What millercarbon actually said:

These marketing stories are just that, stories.

A more succinct formulation, don’t you agree?

AC side tweaks, which have nothing at all to do with the musical signal.

Uh, but your mind, didn’t you say it was most certainly not, er I mean NOT made up?

I am most certainly NOT saying that my mind is made up,...

Okay. Well, told you it would be used later.

Unless your power quality is terrible, AC side stuff just isn’t going to make a difference.

Yeah, yeah, we know. But you’re still open minded. Right.

Previous posts:

how would a power cord make a difference?

and

Interestingly, I haven’t really read about power cords before

It would appear not only is your mind made up, but made up on zero evidence. Zero reading, even! Your own words!

What millercarbon actually said:

The people screaming snake oil are no better. They know even less. At least the people who pretend to know why might actually bother to try the stuff and listen and use it and maybe learn a thing or two some day. The snake oil people, what they are really saying is their mind is made up, you’re all suckers, and no way they will ever even try to listen and learn.

We can see now why you’re so upset: nailed it.

Oh well. Never too late.

If you really are in Seattle then you’re within driving distance of being able to hear for yourself just how incredible things we cannot explain can make a system sound. Blow. Your. Mind.
https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367

These marketing stories are just that, stories. Which is not to say there aren't improvements from using this stuff. Very likely there are. Its just to say the improvements are not for the reasons we're being told.

In fact the one thing I am most certain of is that they are NOT for the reasons we're being told.

Why am I so certain? Because a thin coat of Total Contact on the outside of a wire, AC or signal, makes no difference,  makes all the same great improvements people are talking about, and for certain it is not generating or saturating anything, and absolutely is not doing anything active. All its doing is somehow improving transmission. Somehow. We don't know.

People hate not knowing. Lotta people rather believe utter nonsense than admit WE DON'T KNOW! Oh, the horror!  

Me, I kind of welcome the not knowing. Because the minute you can convince yourself you know why, then you stop thinking about what if? Look around. Look how often it happens. Look at all the people trying to buy cables, and all kinds of stuff, based on what are nothing more than cockamamie stories. Only they won't call them that. Oh no. That's a big part of the delusion, to call your cockamamie stories theories, principles, facts, measurements, anything but what they are: narrative. Fanciful tales. Fables. Myths. Stories. 

The people screaming snake oil are no better. They know even less. At least the people who pretend to know why might actually bother to try the stuff and listen and use it and maybe learn a thing or two some day. The snake oil people, what they are really saying is their mind is made up, you're all suckers, and no way they will ever even try to listen and learn. They're the lowest of the low. They truly need a new hobby.

Of course, none of this really matters - unless you really are interested in building an exceptionally fine sounding system. Because then if you are serious about it you will go and listen and keep trying and learning, and maybe even one day realize that just like mahgister keeps saying the tweaks matter at least as much as the components.

Go and listen. You will see.

Not saying these things don't work. Either of them. Any of them. Totally absolutely trust and believe you guys are hearing what you're hearing, and it is as impressive as you say. That said, the whole marketing narrative of these things is baloney. Could give you some things to check to confirm for yourselves but I will just let you try and figure it all out from this one little tip from the Nordost page:

It is compatible with voltages from 110V to 240V 

You don't say. And yet it, "Works directly on the AC line, actively introducing a precise range of pulsed frequencies." 

Yeah, no, I don't think so!

If you hear it, it works!

Yup.

And if you read it, its a story.