Gabriel Gold IC's are they really this good?

steve, that is strange that you would attemt to compaire cables like gabriel Gold that cost a few hundred dollars to cables that are north of 30 thousand dollars, mmmmm, really!

03-24-15: Audiolabyrinth
steve, that is strange that you would attemt to compaire cables like gabriel Gold that cost a few hundred dollars to cables that are north of 30 thousand dollars, mmmmm, really!

LOL! This from a guy who has no problem comparing his speakers that cost a few hundred dollars to speakers that are north of 30 thousand dollars, mmmmm, really??!!
Oh the irony is delicious!!

that is a vicious joke that you spread around like a disease, you know what that makes you!, I have a few thousand in my speakers!, oh the irony does show your true dishonesty!

Yes, but your few thousand is 'invested' in Tara Labs top of the line jumpers. You have more $$$ invested in your jumpers than your speakers.

Just a thought, maybe if you live in a glass house, you shouldn't throw rocks at others.
The truth can be painful, but it is not dishonest. Now go back to your own thread.

Steve, that is the most amazing thing about Tara Labs, their prices are ridiculously high for basically copper cables. No silver, no gold, no palladium, nothing that would hint at their astronomical prices.

Siltech, Nordost, and others also have ridiculous prices, but none of them would charge that much money for just copper. Tara Labs is pocketing a LOT of cash, even after paying off all of the reviewers and dealers.

Steve, don't confuse the issue with facts, he doesn't understand them.

John, you forgot the upgraded binding posts. A HUGE upgrade, immediately obvious to at least one person.

your kidding!, my jumper cables are no where near the cost I have in my speakers!, quit being dishonest and spreading your dishonesty, really!, get a life!

Oh, there is dishonesty here, and most folks know where it is coming from Audiolabyrinth. Unfortunately, you have built yourself quite a reputation in the last couple of years since you've joined the forums. Almost everyone is on to you by now.

A word of advice:

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

Mark Twain

you live in a fantasy world buddy!, come hear my system and see my system, I have proof, whats wrong with you?, and you know nothing of my reputation buddy, frankly, I am proud of my reputation, numerous calls, e-mails from all over, and numerous from Tara labs, krell, etc..., you again are talking from the side of your mouth!

furthermore, coming from someone whos system is inferrior to mine by a long shot is just plain stxxxx!, say whatever you want, you will ramble on and on, quit crying, LOL!

anybody that believes that silver does not oxidize does not know anything about cables, come on, I have heard about your cheap termination's, and what your cabes look like inside, talkig about the major fleesing of the cable industry!

Audiolabryinth said:

anybody that believes that silver does not oxidize does not know anything about cables

It does of course oxidize. The relevant questions are:
1. Does it oxidize at an appreciable rate when exposed to air?
2. How does the conductivity of the oxidation product differ from silver itself?

Per this thread on AA is seems that the answer, as is often the case, is "it depends". If you live near a salt marsh or another area with lots of hydrogen sulfide in the air, silver seems like not so good an idea. Otherwise, who knows. Anyways, periodic cleaning of connectors is always a good idea.

Chill out, dude ;-)

I don't know about cheap connectors or anything like that but I can tell you that the new interconnects outperform many cables I have had in the past that were much more expensive, so if Steve can keep the cost down and still have an excellent cable then I am all for that.

Hi Steve, just to clarify, I was just responding to audiolabryinth, I think your cables are great

the cables here may be good for a few hundred dollars, what I am saying is that none of these here will ever compete with the likes of state of the art cables out there, that is all, the G.G. cables are entry level cables by many audiophile standards, cheers.

03-31-15: Audiolabyrinth
the cables here may be good for a few hundred dollars, what I am saying is that none of these here will ever compete with the likes of state of the art cables out there, that is all, the G.G. cables are entry level cables by many audiophile standards, cheers.

Just another audiophool who thinks that sound quality is directly tied to pricing. Tell us Audiolabyrinth, if this is true, then how bad do you inexpensive speakers sound?
Sure, they may be good sounding speakers for a few hundred dollars, what I am saying is that your JBL speakers will never compete with state of the art speakers. Your JBL's are entry level speakers by many audiophile standards, cheers.

You got to be talking to someone else, my speakers I have thousands of dollars into, also, those who enjoy jbl know my speakers are legendary, until you listen to a pair with bi amp cables or quality jumper cables, your really talking out the side of your mouth!!!

Audiolab....I remember a post by you in 2013 or 2014 when you said you paid $600 for those JBLs. You bought them for the nice cabinets and were going to flip them. You better check your archives.

John, you had to know that the shoe wouldn't fit on the other foot. I wonder how many pairs of GG cables he has listened to? He sure is still capable of judging them though. In his own intimable fashion, he has put a thousand dollars in feet and nearly that much into jumpers and declared a $700 pair of speakers as unbeatable.

I know Cris, the irony is amazing. According to the all powerful Oz (Audiolab), you can get incredible speakers on the cheap. However, you can't find great cables for less money than Tara Labs. Talk about someone who is totally lost! There is no one on these forums more lost than him.

I know he has never heard any of Steve's cables, yet that won't stop him from displaying his ignorance for all to see. LOL! What a total tool!

Jmcgrogan2,

Why do you feel it necessary to get personal and abusive with those who disagree with you?

04-01-15: Sts
IMO-You can't put Pirelli P Zero Nero tires on a stock Toyota Camry and think your car is not ready to run Nascar.

Very well put Steve, my thoughts exactly. However, for some, that concept is beyond reach. They will spend years trying to preach how wonderful their tires are, and how it makes their vehicle "world class". Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

Sabai,

Why do you feel the need to isolate me from the others?

Obviously many here have issues with Audiolabyrinth and his mental gymnastics. You can see the same on his thread, Taralabs. In general, I treat folks with respect, until they become disrespectful. I only return serve. These forums used to be quite pleasant and fun, with worthwhile reading material, until a couple years ago, when we have seemed to become overrun with shills and arrogant folks who do not realize that there are many ways to audio nirvana.

My main beef with Audiolab is that he feels that expensive Tara Labs cables are the ONLY way to musical bliss. Yes, that type of naivete actually exists. While that in itself is not a bad thing, it becomes a bad thing when it is forced down the throat of others.

Sabai, John(Jmcgrogan2) is
experienced audiophile who’s opinion always valued and matters. Because of people like Audiolabyrinth and some others who are consistently pushing the same product all over- the Audiogon is not the same it was. I only hope that people like Jmcgrogan2, Jafox, Guidocorna and some
will not stay away from this forums for good, because of all those crappy salesman that soliciting products on these boards.

Agisthos,

I'm sorry but the facts show that your statements are totally inaccurate.

1. This is from the Stereo Times review that lauds Paul McGowan and Ted Smith:

"... DirectStream represents a new benchmark in audio reproduction ..."

2. This is from John Darko's Digital Audio Review:

"... the DirectStream ... takes the listener to an altogether different digital audio realm both in its creative circuit design and its sumptuous sound ... I've put my money where my mouth is: I've purchased the DirectStream review unit ... I think that speaks for
itself."

3. This is from Vade Forrester's review in The Absolute Sound:

"It’s easily the best DAC I’ve heard in my system, making digitally-recorded music sound better than I’ve ever heard it."

4. This is from David Robinson's review in Positive Feedback:

"This is a brilliant design, with exceptional execution, and paradigm-setting sound."

5. This is from Art Dudley’s review in Stereophile:

“… for those who've waited for a computer-friendly DAC that offers, with every type of music file, the best musicality of which DSD is capable, the PerfectWave DirectStream may be in a class by itself.”

6. This is from Karl Sigman’s Audiophilia review:

“The DS is a game changer … The DS gets my highest recommendation; hats off and a bow to PS Audio.”

IMHO it is unfortunate you did not get your facts straight first before commenting on the DirectStream DAC.

Jmcgrogan2,

I am not "isolating" you. I am merely commenting on your manner of addressing fellow posters -- a pattern that is not apparent with most others. There is nothing to be gained by following the lead of "arrogant folks" by copying their ways. IMO. This only leads to a general deterioration in the quality of the Forum which I find lamentable.

Nobody is forcing anyone to accept the views and opinions of others here. We are all free to ignore posts and posters we feel objectionable -- or to disagree using a respectful tone even if we disagree strongly with their views.

Denon1,

I do not feel it is appropriate for you to assume everyone feels as you do -- that any given poster's opinion is "always valued and matters" in all cases. This will vary depending who the participants are, what the discussion is about and what each side thinks and feels. IMO.

Greg (Denon1) thank you for the kind words.
How is your system sounding these days?

Thank you for the lecture Sabai, though I do wonder why you chose to single me out again. You certainly are isolating on me. How could you not read Audiolabyrinth's posts as disrespectful? Perhaps you can also heed your own advice as well, as you have displayed a tendency to snap and become disrespectful as well.

I do find that the minority here, ones that have been shunned by the majority due to their inappropriate behavior, do seem to bond together and join together as a kindred spirit, as you and Audiolab seem to have.

I will take your advice though, and ignore any of your future postings.

I apologize to Steve for side-tracking this thread. Please continue to talk about Gabriel Gold cables, they are quite good bang for the buck.

Jmcgroan2,

You're very welcome.

Jmcgrogan2,
You make a good point. The root of the problem is Audiolabyrinth, not you.

I have a reflection xlr coming in the mail soon and it will be replacing a very nice cable that I have had for a few years. Judging from the sound of the new reflectionv2 rca that I have I am confident that this new xlr will be a fowards move for my system. I will post details later.

Well I picked up the gabriel gold xlr yesterday and had a short listening session last night. All I can say is wow, these are some really nice cables, and they are not even broken in.
The cables replaced a set of purist audio xlr that I have loved for years but those will now be going to a friends system. I find the gabriel golds to be a little better in the bass and soundstage. The highs are about the same, maybe a little more detail in the gabriel gold, but I know from experience that these babies will get better with a few hundred hours on them

Just to update, both cables are broken in now and my system sounds awesome. Some much more natural and smooth and the soundstage is now much wider and deeper. Imaging is incredible and overall music is just much better than before. I love these cables

I too have purchased a set of GG Reflection v2 ic's off an audiogon auction ... and I must say that after full break-in these cables are a true steal at the auction price and trully a good deal at full retail.

They convey sound in a very natural, un-embelished way. Non-fatiguing, articulate with resolution a-plenty. They currently serve duty in my headphone system where even the bass is surprisingly articulate.

Given my overall experience, I can say that I'm a big fan of these cables.

Here are some other IC's I've used in the past in my system:

Kubala Sosna (Emotion, Expression and Fascination lines)
Audioquest (Sky, Cheetah, Jaguar, King Cobra ... older lines)
Transparent (Reference series)
Nordost (Valhalla line)
Silnote (Morpheus Reference v2)
Antipodes (Komako line)
Monster (Sigma line)
Anticables
Audio Note (Vx series)
Cardas (Golden Reference, Golden Cross and Neutral Reference)
Whest Audio
Harmonic Tech (MKIII Silkway)
Revelation Audio Labs (Paradise)

Amperidian, glad to see you like the gg cables. I love them in my system. I also have to of the older gg power cables which are very good. I here that Steve has a new power cable that is even better but have not seen much info. about it. Not looking to change any cables for a while.

  That is pretty cool.  I have 3 sets of reflection interconnects and they are some of the best price to performance interconnects I have tried.

just wanted to add another thank you note on this forum. Steve, I ended up getting another pair of these wonderful  Reflection v2 for my headphone system and I will be moving them to the SACD portion of my main system once I put it back together. They are unbelievable for the price man. I can't thank you enough for your work. Even though I still use Kubala Sosna Emotion cables for my vinyl rig and speakers, your cables are here to stay. many thanks!