The answer is already in the last posts about piezo and pyro effects of tourmaline excited in this dryer generating ions :)
My main point is not about dryer ….
Why is any stones or crystals alike, works in cleaning or muddying in a variable and specific degrees corresponding to each different specific stones structure the electrical grid even if they are only passively used on an external cable for example then without active changing pressure nor active changing thermal modification ?
Takes some lava beads and put them on a transformer and listen....the effect is very powerful audible and can be negative in a variable degree of the sound quality, dependant of the specific properties of the audio system...The effect will be powerful but positive most of the times on a breaker panel or on the external electrical cable of the house.... Try it....:)
You did not answer my main point....
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You correct me on a small point ( The piezo and pyro effect are linked in tourmaline because of it crystal structure and properties) They are not linked in all crystals yes and we must distinguish them for sure... And you dont address my main point about shungite or lava beads at all... Except pointing to a placebo effect....And ironizing with salt lamp... Thanks... What can I think? |
The pyroelectrical effect and piezo effect of tourmaline are linked because it is a crystal.... Shungite also work the same in an electrical grid, filtering the noise spectrum, like tourmaline and it is not a crystal, then no piezo effect neither pyroelectric effect can explain the shungite working effect...
I dont negate the fact that piezo and pyro effect plays a role with tourmaline or other crystals,i suggest that this cannot explain the shungite case nor the lava beads case for example....
Do you know by the way how powerful lava beads are in an electrical grid?
No piezo effect can explain the working effects of lava beads either....
Do you understand my point cicada? :)
My point is there is other explanation than these piezo and pyro effect, because many stones are not crystals....
On the external electrical cable of my house I use riverbed stones to clean the grid....Because it is cheap cost.... It work less optimally than with tourmaline or shungite but it work at low cost... No piezo or pyro effect explain the fact that this is working....you got my point at last?
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geoffkait
Tourmaline is a negative ion generator among other things To generate ions tourmaline must be excited and compressed(piezo effect) and on top of my Schumann Generator I dont think that the pression, if there is any, is able to generates ions...Also shungite is not like tourmaline capable of some piezo electrical effect, it is not a crystal...But shungite like tourmaline on top of a Schumann generator filter the noise also, with his own different "signature" tough ... And on a central breaker panel tourmaline+shungite filter the noise also.... No piezo effect explain that.... |
I cannot wait science progress to create my audio system....:)
I only know ( metaphorically speaking ) that after my experiments with a grid of stones that for example tourmaline filter in a way the noise around any connection, or any piece of gear....Why? I dont know and you dont seems to know also....:) Different stones work differently and I used them complementarily....
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Geoff I am not enough intelligent to guess when you are serious, dismissive, ironic, sceptic or believer, or experimented and knowledgeable.... Help me... :) |
Interesting discussion.... Why if I introduce a tourmaline stone near a cable do I modify the sound? I assimilate that to some filtration and a decreasing of the noise level also...But I am not a scientist.... |
Beliefs and opinions are nothing except if someone communicate about the way to verify them... I did... Think about the way to changes the controls of the 4 embeddings of an audio system....I made it for myself and it is possible to verify it with homemade means and at relatively low cost... Who says better? |
Of course it is only trough the improving controlled complex embeddings, that a simple audio system can gives the means to the human ears to differentiate from different cables, or from different other variables in some dimensions of the embeddings themselves...
My experience in my audio system is that very little modifications can repercute from one level to another...
Of course we can debate that some of these are only placebos, but not all of them are and can be, and this is the main point....We cannot dismiss the baby with the bathwater.... :)
By the way my audio system in is the second rung of the scale at most and is a good but an ordinary one....Then absolutely not a Top Hi-Fi gear.... It is the relative controls of the 4 embeddings I implemented that makes my ordinary system able to inform me adequately about changes of cables or other variables changes , not my 68 years old hearing habilities "per se", and not the special brand name of my actual gear " per se"....
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Those who say differences in cables is bullshit, and those who say differences in cables are noticeable; these 2 groups are right...
All experience we deduce about audio is directly dependent on some very particular conditions and relative to our own particular audio environment...
Our particular conditions is strictly linked to the 4 embeddings of an audio system, and the resolutive power comes directly and proportionally from the variable controls of this 4 embeddings ( except for the variable quality of each part of the audio system itself distributed in the 3 rungs scale of price/S.Q.).
Then debating about audio facts, in itself has generally no signification...I am only interested to homemade low cost means to improve the audio system...Because this is the only thing that makes sense if we want to experience something that go somewhere, and not a self gratification about what we owns or think we know....
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Wise observation Glupson...
I am a diplodocus I think....
I am an optimist diplodocus...
In few more years no more dac, no more separate visible speakers, no more visible amplifier....
I am also a pessimist diplodocus...
In few more years, no more humans perhaps or way, way less....
I am also a realist diplodocus....
The Beethovenian music for A.I. exist already it is an electronical one....
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Thanks kijanki very interesting observation....
That will be useful for me indeed.... My best...
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