Fundamentalist Fervor


What is with the self-proclaimed "objectivist" contributors here who wrap themselves in the cloak of "science" and insist that they're faith based beliefs be accepted by all without question, challenge or doubt. I am not going to name these people here because it will likely result in this thread being deleted and that is not my intent but these "naysayers" as some here describe these people typically have no first hand experience with the matters upon which they produce they're pronouncements and proclomations and when challenged on that they recite their theory of some basic physics premise that is incomplete, improperly applied or not relevant or else they simply say it is a matter of common sense. You can identify these people easily because they have what Americans call a "trigger finger" and will rapidly label anything they don't understand as "snake oil" or "placebo-induced" or fairy dust and then demand that other's prove their claims with some test they say is easy to undertake but which they don't undertake themselves because they don't even have the product with which to experiment! They are a form of fundamentalists and my question is why do you think they are here what is their point if they don't hear differences at all?
clearthink

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@clearthink I am not sure whether you are having a dig at the "product" supporters or to those who ask for more information. I would ask for as many facts on a product as possible so I could make an educated decision on that product.

It does get frustrating when "product" supporters are not forthcoming with information, even basic stuff, so you might be able to form some sort of opinion on the validity of the product, no matter if it is good or bad.

Threads will always contain polarising comments by some, but that is the spice of life, the democracy we live under.

@clearthink You might be best reading the forum's policy before having a go at me. I posted same on the tweaks thread…

excerpt "You agree never to post to or use Our Website or any Public Venue for any purpose that is illegal, fraudulent, infringes the rights of others, or includes advertising, promotional material, solicitation of business, chain letters, pyramid schemes, solicitation of wagering or gambling, spamming, or that is otherwise illegal or inappropriate."

So I was not inappropriate in bringing certain affairs to light. Best you Clearthink yourself before slagging off at me, or my opinions, which so happens to be site policy.

A sceptic is only called that, by persons who have no factual backing about the subject they preach. Those people use empirical opinions as facts. Ok nothing wrong with that if the subject is ethereal, rather than of a solid substance. If something is solid, then it can be factualised, rather than vocalised.

I think some poster's do not know the difference between the two, or prefer to ignore that logic, for convenience or those that are simply ignorant of this.

Now, are you calling someone who is "objectivist":

- one who practices objectivism, which is the formulation of hypothesis into fact which is able to be demonstrated repeatedly such that people can read and understand the science behind, in this case a product?

- one who objects to hypothesis on the grounds that it cannot be proved?

- one who belongs to a group who practice objectivity, i.e. one who remains apart emotionally from the "science" (for instance), such that the "science" remains emotionless - or fact - which is pretty dry..

One wonders who is actually practising "Fundamental Fervour"? It would appear your dissertation Mr C needs a bit more thought, rather than fanning out a spray of accusation.

@clearthink I believe it was you who initiated this thread to put a few noses out of joint? So what is good for the goose and all that...

But believe me, I am not paranoid or creepy and certainly not as foul mouthed as you, (regarding the end of your post to @unreceivedogma in the cables thread) hiding behind capital letters. Why not come out and write it in full?

@clearthink Methinks you have had a bit too much lollywater. Anyway, enough frivolity. I have more important things to attend to. 'til next time? Nope, I don't think so either...
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