Freezer Cryoed Cables...


Hi all, you can get about the effect as Cryoed treatments by putting your cables or components in the Freezer for 24 hours and then put them in the refrigerator for one or two hours.........this REALLY works!!! Try this with the cables you have now.......Try this for yourself and see if you "hear a difference"............Richard
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I can tell you from experience freezing your cables will make a change. If your cables are made of metal they will be altered slightly simply by putting them in a freezer. I deal with this at work all winter long, people park there car's outside and it gets cold the wheels/steel in the tire shrinks just a little bit and I see a TON of slow leaks coming in. I bet its happened to some people here. Not to mention the insulation being slightly effected(obviously it would vary depending on the dielectric that's used) I have no clue how this would change the sound but from my real world experience with a little lower temperature I have no doubts that it will alter the sound for a little while. I suspect it has less to do with altering the metal and more to do with the dielectric being further away from the wire(because when metal is even 0ºC it has shrinkage) the colder you go(with in reason) the more shrinkage you experience thus allowing more air to function as the dielectric. So I suppose I do buy this, though it clearly isn't permanent and I would hardly call "cryoed" it seems possible to change the sound.

Any one have any thoughts on my theory of how this possibly could work? In my world it kind of makes sense.
I may believe it changes your sound, however I am not putting my cables any where near my freezer! You seem like a drug pusher- try and stay cool like your cables ;)
Twl- I agree completely. The only point I'd like to clarify is, I don't think anyone is saying it changes the metal molecularly(or at least I hope not)- your austenite and martensite will remain the same. The difference some are experiencing- IMO- has to do with a subtle shrinkage of the wire itself.
Now your talking just plain foolish. I am by no means an expert in metallurgy however I understand the basic of metal properties. The purpose of cryo treating is to reverse the damage done to the metal when it was heated- when metal is heated its micro structure changes to what is known as austenite. When its cooled most of austentite converts to the much stronger(molecularly "aligned") martensite. However a portion remains in the softer austentite form and by introducing extremely low temperatures(around -300º F)- via slow cool down and then slow recovery- it changes all of the austentite to the superior martensite. You can't claim your freezer is acheiving this, maybe its chaning some of the austentite but the amount would be so insignificant the improvements based on this alone would be undedectable(perhaps this is what Twl was eluding to).

I hate to bring science of any sort into this hobby, but you've got to use at least a little common sense when you make statements like you just did.
Because its NOT the same as cryogenic treatment as I have just explained to you. If you can tell me how the freezer creates the SAME effect as cryogenic treatment then I am all ears, other wise I think this portion of the debate is over.

Until you have tried cryogenic treatment on all of the same components as you have frozen in your freezer your making a broad generalization with out merit.
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