Found Monster cables inside my Watt Puppy 5.1's


I finally got around to repairing all four blown woofers in my Wilson 5.1's (I still can't figure out how I could have blown them. Could using them with a 40 Watt integrated Proton amp and having the power accidentally turned on with the volume way up cause that?). As I took out the original woofers, I was shocked to see that one of the wires connected to the speaker was yellow and had "Monster Cable" written on it. I couldn't believe it. First, I thought Monster Cable was considered only for mid-fi products and Second, I thought Wilson only used Transparent cabling (it does for the Puppy Tail anyway). Weird.

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Actually, I ended up buying a pair of Watt Puppy 6's. The lack of bass was just too much for me to live without. Especially since I blew the woofers, I decided it was better to upgrade. However, now I'm running into some trouble with the repair. I took out the old woofers, soldered the replacements and screwed them back in. But the sound from those speakers is all wrong. There is absolutley no bass at all now?

On top of that, I can't get the speakers off now. With the blown pair, I just reached in and grabbed through the holes in the soft section that separated from the speaker. But now i have no way to grab them, and even turning the speaker on its face, I can't get it to separate. Any suggestions on how to get it off so I can take a look at what happened?

I know, I know, I should have had a professional do this, but I bought these on consignment, and the shop where I bought them went under. I figured replacing woofers would be no big deal. I must have guessed wrong. :>

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I suppose break in is necessary, but there is absolutely zero bass. almost sounds like the puppy turned into a small PC speaker. That can't be right, could it?

To be honest, I can't figure out when exactly they blew. I suppose it's possible they were damaged before I even bought them, though I like to believe that I would have heard blown woofers. Can an under powered amp cause low impedance speakers (the puppys are known to be down to 2 ohms in the bass range I believe) to blow if played too loud? I know the sound gets very ratty when played too loudly.

As far as risk/return, I hear you. But I didn't realize that Wilson themselves would take them back for repair. Plus, I don't have boxes for them. (I wonder what they would have charged me?) I got the woofers from another dealer that used to carry Wilson as a favor. They never mentioned sending it directly to Wilson, and said that I should be able to just solder them in myself. I only paid about $4k for the pair, so the risk/return wasn't quite as high. What a painful lesson though.
you were right, johnmcelfresh! they _were_ out of phase. btw, the folks at Wilson were also very helpful, and deduced that they may be out of phase. i was able to get the speaker out (i just left it on its face for a while and tapped the back. it eventually popped out. i then switched the wires on one of the woofers, and voila! they work beautifully now. the bass seems a tad weak, but i think that is because of break in.

thanks, everyone, for your help!

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yes, i forgot to clarify that i did, indeed, upgrade to a Levinson system. 383 Integrated, 39 CD Player, Transparent cabling. the protons were definitely not cutting it, and i absolutely love the sound from the levinsons. nicely detailed and laid back. :)