For anyone who moved from tubes to solid state — a question


I'm the happy owner of a fairly new tube preamp and monoblock amps. I love it and have bought new tubes. To have another option for warmer weather or possibly a second listening room, I got a very good solid state integrated. I've run the tube preamp with the solid state amp and it sounds quite nice. I love all tubes, too.

But this question is for you. Please forget the convenience factor for a moment, including the issue of tube replacement etc. Also, forget about those cases where you bought new speakers and needed more power, etc.

Assuming you had quality tube gear with sufficient power — here's the question if you abandoned tubes for SONIC reasons:

What what is that tubes couldn't give you?
What did your solid state gear do for you which was so much better that you divorced to marry anew?

I'm curious about what people list as the positive sonic reasons they love solid state (including A, AB, D, etc.).

Thanks.
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Showing 6 responses by mahgister

Like someone else already said here, ZOTL technology seems to be the way to go without any negative  claimed by the 2 camps against each other, in the tubes versus S.S. debate....

I want one and i accept donation.... :)
When I listen to my tube based system, I get emotionally carried away. When I listen to my SS system I get interested. For me, emotional is more true to the essence of the music.

My Sansui must be a "tube" amplifier without me knowing it....It does not sound only detailed but visceral also and warm....

:)

I truly think that the differences that a good embedding can make is over the relative differences betweeen Tubes and solid state.....But i dont have experience with high end tubes amplifiers then....... :)

It is just that i cannot think that my sound from the sansui is in any way like some describe S.S.

Perhaps some dont know it Sansui takes 25 years to reproduce exactly one against the other their best tube amplifier with their best solid state.... Their goal was to reproduce the tube amp Sansui in their Sansui S.S..... That was a complete success.... I dont have the link to the video tough no more....

Instructive to understand a difference that only relatively exist not by virtue of an eternal difference in design but by accident and tech history...

A good embed S.S. amplifier and a good embed tube amp. are on par.....

The question must be: is it reallly rightfully embedded mechanically, electrically, and acoustically? The question is not wich is better a S.S. amp or a tube one.... It is relative to their quality/price ratio and finally to their embeddings in the system, room, and house.....Theorically we can design a S.S. amplifier to sound like a tube amp, Sansui has proved it long ago....
You are probably wrong if we speak about quality watts...
It is the amplifier i dream to buy.... It is a complete new recreation of tube amplifier technology...The creator is a physicist...Not only all reviews are glowing one but the tube has a duration very long and no heat....

Think about that, organic sound tube with the detais of s.s. and can be used like a top of the line pre-amplifier...

It is the only amplifier about which i dream for the last years.... My old Sansui AU 7700 is so good i want to be sure to beat it if i buy another amplifier, and this Sansui is hard to beat....

But you are right, if i listen telepathically to you, i never listen to it....

:)
The reason tube amps are still around all these decades on is that they make less audible distortion than transistor amps- the brightness of solid state is caused by distortion (and is as much a coloration as anything tubes do); this is why a solid state amp and a tube amp can measure flat on the test bench but the solid state amp will sound bright and the tube amp will not.
I dont have much experience with tubes amplifier versus S.S. amplifier.... I only own a modest tube amplifier garage 1217 the Ember...And playing tubes was fun fpr some months... :)

But i can assure you that not all S.S. amplifier are made equal....

The qualities associated in all thread to tube amplifier, i feel them with my Sansui AU 7700 with no loss in bass control....

The Sansui is warm and detailed with great bass..... It is a so good amplifier i purchase another one.... :)