Footers under new speakers


Hi , I’m seeking advice regarding footers and/or platforms under my speakers. I purchased Tekton Double Impact’s and have heavy shag carpet and padding over a cement slab floor. House is 35 years old, cement is thick and well cured. I’m from that old mindset of spikes into cement and I am looking for an improvement. I’ve looked online at Gaia footers and Herbie's Studded Giant Gliders. I emailed Herbie’s and specifically inquired about the studded gliders alone on the DI’s over carpet. I asked about stability and was told the speakers were “ heavy enough “. Unfortunately I just set up the DI’s temporarily to get a little break in time. They are without any footers upright on my carpet. At 115 lbs the speaker does about zero to compress the carpet. I understand weight Vs footprint is abysmal but they won’t even stand straight. I’ll probably put the spikes on for a bit until I formulate a plan. But my first concern is that Herbie’s gliders alone are not enough and due to the minimum cost of the speakers I am struggling with purchasing Gaia’s footers and footer spikes. The seismic stands look exceptional, but I’m trying to be frugal. So I’m looking for suggestions like, gliders or dots with or without spikes on wood / stone plinths spiked to the floor. My goal is to try some sort decoupling (Gliders / Springs / Dots) AND eliminate the need of having to rely on the carpet being compressed. And yes I have cheap speakers and seek a cheap solution, so I get that limitation. Unfortunately I can’t afford Tannoy’s or Fynes to compliment my 180 watt tube mono blocs for at least a year. Cheers , Mike B. 

buellrider97

Hi, Buell / Mike

Nice bikes! Cool.

Apologies for being a bit off topic, but think it important.

You mentioned that the room is damp and that is producing “mildew”. It seems you may have had some serious health issues, noting “Life is good”. Agreed on that last point.

Mold is not a vitamin. It is dangerous and different folks have different sensitivities.

Symptoms can range from none, to allergies, to neurological problems, to compromised immune system to… death. Not good.

FWIW, I have a beach house, on the water. Everything rusts. It is always “moist”. I also have a sailboat, sitting in salt water. Everything rusts that is not marine grade. It is always “moist”.

I have had to become a Mold Warrior. And now, it would appear, a Mold Evangelist.

I have found the following most beneficial:

Temporary accommodations:

1) Run a Hype Hepa air filter. Plug it in, run it 24/7 and save your lungs / life. Get one big enough for the cubic volume of your space. Add a little extra capacity. Why not?

2) Run a dehumidifier. Best is one with a drain hose into a sink or sump with a pump. Also best is automatic on/off based on humidity levels, i.e. programmable, big enough for the cubic volume of your space.

Actual solution:

Remove the source.

While it may seem inconvenient, so is illness.

There are professional mold remediation experts. Call one or more. They can test for the various species reproducing under your carpet and fix the problem for you if you so choose.

While I agree about the Townshend Podiums, I would first invest in being healthy so I can listen to music, go sailing and enjoy life, which is good.

Apologies if this seems intrusive in any way. 

Life is good!

Thanks for listening,

Ken

@waldenpond , Hi and thanks , point WELL TAKEN. When off topic is important, off topic is greatly appreciated.  I’m in Clovis ( Fresno ), so you know the weather. My house in particular sits on clay with no drainage. I’m fully aware of mold , and being here , Valley Fever. I have taken considerable measures to make sure that my moisture is removed to prevent ANY mold or even a buildup of condensation. I have 2 dual pack air units that dry out the house as a by product of cooling. In the winter I RAN a wood stove , that was recently replaced with a gas powered insert . This is the area of the house most effected and I watch this like a Hawk. I have electric powered dehumidifiers in a couple strategic places with added circulation and especially in my gun safe. I do regular roof , attic and wall checks. I monitor the efflorescence that occasional occurs. Your point is well taken and greatly appreciated. FWIT my close friend has a 50’ boat in Martinez and we were at the Sail GP races recently. I’ve spent most of my life vacationing in Santa Cruz and fishing all of Monterey Bay. My body is worn out and broken from years in the gym supplemented with PED’s and 25 year career in a prison facility. I’ve been able to hike the John Muir trail, Fish tuna in SD and Mexico, Salmon in Monterey and fly fish Northern California. My son used to live on Fell St just above the Golden Gate Park area and we would cycle across the bridge and do Hawk Hill and Sausalito then back to the City. With broken body parts , heart failure and rheumatoid arthritis compounded with an autoimmune disorder I’m starting overtime. So I greatly appreciate your concern and I totally understand the dangers of naturally occurring environmental toxins. FWIT my last request is to have my ashes dumped into Monterey Bay at to mouth of the Canyon with some 60’s-70’s SF classic rock playing. Big Brother , Quicksilver , CCR ect. Much love and respect, Mike B. 

Would there be any merit in using both Gaia footers and a Townsend podium?

I like the looks of the Gaias, and I'm happy to gain some extra speaker height as i prefer to sit a bit further back to benefit from the deepest bass

Many thanks

gav

Hi, Mike 

Hang in there, Brother

Glad you are on top of it and have the music. 

I get the Monterey Bay connection. My place is in Santa Cruz. My boat is in Sausalito.

Good advice from Janis and Big Brother - "Get it while you can" 

Love and Respect x2. 

Double OT - that's the goal. 

Ken 

PS - I have Herbie's Big Fat Sliders under some B&W 802s that I need to slide around for serious listening sessions due to space & decor issues. They were better than spikes and also better than no spikes. 

K

 

 

 

 

@gavman , Hi I like the Gaias too. The big hang up is the carpet. I have zero experience hence this post. The feedback I get from people that are not budget restricted are Townsends with Gaias very close. I’ve been fortunate to have side conversations with people I respect who have used both and it’s about 2-1 for Townsends. I like the looks of the Auva’s with spikes too. I’m waiting on the arrival of the Townsends and based on the overwhelming positive reviews and the large footprint I’m choosing them. I’m starting to step out if MidFi and the closed minded idea that spikes are the best. I have enough gear for 2-3 modest systems and will be trying ToughNutt cylinders and maybe the pointed footers on some isolation platforms. So probably Herbies , Auva’s and ToughNutt over the next year. The Gias might get sidestepped due to cost. Also I went directly to Townsend and they gave me a generous price through AGON. Cheers, Mike B.