Rashad-
I live close to you (Lakewood Park).
I would let you borrow my Musical Fidelity TriVista on your Sopras.
It's probably not nearly as good as current technology, but it would give you an indication of a hybrid (tube/ss) integrated sound.
PM me if you'd like.
Keith |
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Hi Syk,
Did you end up getting the Sopra 2s? If so what amplifier did you settle with. I just bought some Sopra 3s and I have a Ayre KX-5 twenty and VX-5 twenty running them. Sounds very good but I wonder if something else would sound even better? Maybe the gryphon Diablo 300 or A Simaudio product. Thanks |
Thanks for the advice. l am going to place order for a pair of N2 tomorrow 😊 However, I made a typo above - "half" of my room will be used for music listening. Hope the n2 would not result in much brooming. Prepared to install some acoustical solutions
Have auditioned some amplifiers recently too to drive the n2. Devialet was great, clear, powerful and sexy looking but the high is a bit harsh. Wonder if it's because of the beryllium tweeters. At that time it was a pair of Estelon. |
I auditioned the Sopra 3 vs. the Wilson Sabrina at the local dealer and it wasn’t even close. The Sopra 3’s were far superior. In fact I would rate the Sopra 2’s above the Sabrina.
I know the Sabrina’s have received a lot of favorable reviews, but to my ears the Sopra’s are in another league. If you know the sound of live music, and in particular acoustic (non-amplified) instruments, you’ll find the Sopra’s do a stunning job of recreating a live musical performance. |
I completely agree with mmcelyea, have heard both the Sopra 2 and 3 and the 3 are a better speaker.
But if you are in for the Sopra 3 i would say you should also try Wilson Audio Sabrina. |
I listened to the 2 and the 3 and also like others have said the 3 is quite a bit better. Even though its the same mid and tweeter the balance of the 3 is better and fuller. The impact in the upper bass and lower midrange is a big step up. The tweeter transition is smoother.
To Syk i would go with the 2. That is a pretty big room. I havent heard those amps but did have a PrimaLuna HP amp and it did not sound as great with the Sopra 3 as it did with most every other speaker. The 3 impedance does go down to about 2.7ohm |
I am new to audiogon (and also new to hifi) and would like to join discussions relating to Focal Sopra for it is one of the choice on my equipment shopping list. l see you all are experts and may I have your advices on the following:
n1 or n2 for a room of 13x24 ft, and 9.5 ft tall (but only alf of it for listening)
a tube amp like Octave or gryphon diable 300
suitable cables |
I have auditioned both the Focal Sopra No. 2 and No. 3 at a dealer. The "3" is definitely superior to the "2". IMHO it's not even close. |
Stereophile just reviewed the Sopra 3 to less than stellar results compared to all the "2" reviews. Issues with depth in a smaller room. I am currently using B&W 802 D3's but am going to sell them for a lighter (meaning actual weight) speaker, as our new home has an upstairs theater...Sopra 2's and Martin Logan 13a's are first on my list! |
The Sopras are really excellent, you may want to also check out the new Paradigm Personas, they have similar clarity and holography and you may find them even more holographic.
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My listening room is smaller side at 23 ft by 17 ft with 7.5 ft ceilings. |
I'm caught between the Sopra 2 and the 3s. I have a pair of Pass Labs XA200.5 monos and Bob Carver Black Beauties that are 350 watts tube majic to power them. My question is would I be better with the Focal S2 since my amplifiers are maybe better suited to them over the Focal S3s? All my cables are Pangea for power and Kimber Kable Hero for interconnects. XP30 Pre and XP25 for Phono. Listen to all discs on my Oppo 105 and Vinyl on vintage modded turntables by Thorens and Garrard with SME 12 arms and Soundsmith modded Denon Dl-103R carts. Currently have vintage speakers JBL 4345 and JBL 250Ti. Appreciate thoughts and advice all. Kansas City, Mo.. |
I have been interested in the Simaudio 700i, a friend of mine has the 600i and it sounds very good with his set up. It seems the Sopra 2's respond very well to integrateds that are more high level. I have the Hegel H300 and the Sopra's really respond well. Best my Hegel has ever sounded. I also have the Hegel 160 for my smaller system, going to try that with Sopra's tonight, bet it kills! I was concerned early on that there might be a systems match concern with the Sopra's (per some articles), the more I read, that doesn't seem to be the case. Really feel fortunate to own the Sopra 2's. |
My Sopra 2's are 5 months old now and finally broken in. They have about 400hrs of play and have improved dramatically since new.
Im using a Simaudio 700i amp to drive them with Discovery Essential & Essence Cables.
These are really great speakers. The imaging and their 3D spacious sound stage is just magical.
Vocals sound like they are in the room. Unreal !!!
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Even if the Magicos are driven by high current class a mono blocks, they still won't open up without lots of volume????? Hmmmmm... |
When I was searching for new speakers, eventually bought the Focal Sopra No2's, listened to the Wilson's and the Magico's. The Magico dealer asked me if I preferred "analytic" or "musical" sounding speakers, he characterized the Magico's and Wilson's as "analytic". In the case of the Magico S3's he said they wouldn't "come to life" until they were driven to loud levels. I listened and agreed with his observation, both with the Magico's and the Wilson's.
These are all great speakers, just a matter of personal taste. Which ever way you go, enjoy them! |
I had Class D for about 6 months (Bel Canto), liked initially but just couldn't connect over time. Class D is more clinical to me and less musical. I wouldn't say it lowered the quality just different and less favorable to me. Some love Class D. Agree with jafant audition as much as you can. The Hegel H300 is a very nice match with the Sopra's, I use Vallhalla balanced from a Cocktail Audio X40 and speaker cables are Silnote Audio Posieidons. Actually a very simple set up. The system noted sounded very good with my Joseph Audio RMXL 25's, but now sounds like a whole new system on all levels with the Sopra No. 2's. Couldn't be happier. |
Please mention cables/cords used during your demo. |
Jeff,
at this level, get as many auditions as you can prior to purchase. |
How much do you think the class D lowered the sound quality? When I had them, they were kind of dry and uninvolving. Now have class a 200w monos.
And, as you know your Hegel punches way above its pay grade on quality!
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I listened to the Magico S3's with a Class D Front end for a good hour or so, was very nice. I liked the Sopra's much better with my Hegel H300, they dig deeper and sounded more musical to me. The Sopra's were better priced also. Have had them a few weeks now and the Sopra's get better everyday. Have about 50 hours on them now, cant wait to hear them with a hundred hours. |
Thanks for your input. I listened to Magico S3s yesterday for 3 hours and thought they were very good but haven't gotten to the Sopras. |
Focal is a more musical speaker used with Pass 250.8 amp great combo. |
In 2015 I did a lot of music audio system upgrades, including the purchase of a new pair of Focal Sopra No2's, after listening to a lot of speakers from different, well-respected manufacturers, including Wilson Audio.
At one of my audio dealer visits the salesman asked if I enjoy "analytic" speakers more than "musical" ones, or vice versa. I thought it was an interesting question, after thinking for a bit "musical" was my choice.
I have never enjoyed Wilson's, to me they sound too "shrill", being driven by high-end tube or solid state. Having said that, I think they are great speakers, just not the sort of sound I enjoy.
I've had my Sopra's now for about eight months and enjoy them immensely. Once I got them broken in and "dialed in" to the room, they have the most incredible "artist in the room" sound stage, excellent detail in the mid and high frequencies, the bass they have is excellent as well (I have a pair of subs too). I am one who gets the "hots" to try new equipment, but the Sopra's won't be on that list anytime soon. |
I did compare the FS 2 against the Wilson Sabrina. Bought the FS2, tested with a Hegel H300 and Electrocompaniet CD player, the FS2 did everything a bit better and cost less. The FS2 is everything the reviews report. Works great for me, but not everybody's cup of tea.The Sabrina is a very good speaker. The music tested covered everything but Metal, the FS2's did a great job with everything, they do disappear behind a wall of sound. Many wow moments. I am enjoying music I haven't listened to in years. I never tested the Sophia 3. At this levels of speakers you really have to demo them with your own equipment to make your best decision. |
