Floor Stander or Monitor w/ 2 subs? What does the later give up in a large room?


My listening room is also the Living room. My wife would love to get rid of the floor standing Silverlines. I can deal with that since I've had these for a long time. Change is good. But will it be a good move to go to monitors with 2 S-5 Rel type subs? I am considering Watkins Gen 4 speakers. I've heard them and they sound very good. But will they fill a 5000+ cu ft room?. That is my only reservation...size of imaging. What else...or am I wrong in my thinking they will lack anything? I will try them but I'd like to know what to look out 

Thanks 
artemus_5

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@newbee 

The SR-17's are legendary and hard to come by.  Even with those, will they fill out the soundstage with full size figures?

@mapman  Yep. It does come down to that. I must kick myself for NOT doing the room when there was opportunity. Oh well. I was  a builder. It might be cheaper to build addition than to find a small speaker which will compete with the speakers I now have. Then too, that material is not cheap either.
Thanks @b_limo . Yes the Watkins are pretty good. I've heard them and was shocked at how deep they go and the natural sound they exhibit. I think you have some valid & good ideas. And $1250 for the S% is a steal. Mine are actually Sumiko S-10's which seem to be a clone of the S-5. It has the same specs but different cone material. (Fiberglass) Plus the Neutrik connector. They integrate  very well just like the Rel. I've had Rel before and just happened to run into these. I love what they do with the whole sound not just more bottom end but the mains sound much bigger. They are discontinued now. I suspect Rel would have sued them if they kept producing them. But Sumiko was the USA Rel distributor for many years
@rockadanny

She’s put up with my music system in the LR for 45 yrs now so I guess I can keep things as they are. But it would be nice to give her a room for "pretty" So this is far from a new experience for her or me. I have Silverline Sonatas now (floor standers) I'm just wondering if I can get equal sound with the monitors and subs (I now have)  Unfortunately, I have too many hobbies and my drums & albums take one room. Attic isn’t big enough. Don’t have basement. Building an addition is the only alternative.

@b_limo

Really!!!! Is that the best suggestion you have? BTW Ya don’t have to be single to have a nice system.
@hilde45
Thanks for the link. they look interesting. My biggest problem with some is their inefficient specs IE 84-85db efficiency. There are a couple I could drive though.
OH, BTW to  everyone else. I have a pair of Infinity RS-1 which I plugged into the system. Since I have the 2 subs, I figured it may give me an idea concerning my question. So I took the Silverline Sonatas our of the path and put the RS-1 in. I was quite surprised at how good they did sound for cheap speakers. They lacked the midrange clarity of the Sonatas. My wife an I listened to them for nearly a week. By that time we knew there was no comparison at all. But it was eye opening as to what such small speakers could do. Then I removed the RS-1 and inserted the Sonatas. As soon as the opening note to the 1st song was heard, I just busted out laughing. The Silverlines were so much bigger and better in every way that it seemed ridiculous now to even try a comparison. 
As I reflect, Two things came to mind. Familiarity breeds contempt. I've had the Silverlines for 15 yrs or so. I knew they were a great speaker when I bought them. But somehow I had forgotten. the second is how easy we are to fool with something new. Even though I had these RS-1 for 10-15 yrs, I was somehow willing to believe they were really better than they were. This is why I usually put a new component in the chain and play it a week or so to acclimate it and me. Then I put the old back in. I've seen it happen where the old was better than the new and it was readily shown when put back in the chain.  Now, onward to my new room.....I hope.

@b_limo 
The upshot may be that I build a room for me. I was going to do that 10 or so years ago. Now, maybe I can do that albeit a little smaller than the one from then. This will expand my office into a nice size music room 11 x 21 (will be the golden ratio) the other one which i had planned comprised another bathroom and a large room plus utility room. I was a builder so maybe I can do this in the summer. Problem is that I am covered up with needed maintenance. Oh well...the golden years.

@b_limo  & @jackd 
I think the Rels ability to integrate is their key to success. I've had them for 15 or more years now. Thankfully these [popped up at a killer price. Rythmic was on my radar though
@soix 
Yess, I think I'll hold on to the Silverlines for the time. If the room comes into fruition It will take my $$$.

@b_limo 
The problem with Salk is that they are power hungry. These are 84db and require 100wpc. My amp is 35wpc. I've had good sound from lower powered amps.

@bjesien 
It was never about trying to recover floor space. I already have the 2 subs. I was trying to take out some of the bulky look of the floor stander speakers. We've lived with it for years now but I was hoping to be kind to my wife without giving up sound. Now maybe we both can have our rooms.
@arion
Good info which enforces my thoughts. However the idea of stressing the monitors is something I hadn't thought about. And that stress will show up sooner or later. Yes, new room....I hope. although I was a builder/carpenter, I am 69 yrs old and don't have the stamina I once had. Hopefully my framing sub is still in business. But he isn't that far behind me in age either. But the room will be needed when my wife retires in a few years. Gotta have somewhere to hide. :-)