Expanding questions about tubes in a preamp


Hello to all...

Started with a (helpful) discussion titled "How to select tubes for a line level preamp"... Expanding questions that have generated from that...

Have learned that hum/noise from tubes is a major consideration - now trying to figure cheap ways to address quieting the 12AX7s and the EF86s.

Would like to try "banding" the tubes with rubber ring washers - one?two?three per tube?

Where should the rings be on the tube: Top? Mid? Bot?

Can you over dampen a tube?

Knowledgeable tube users/ Masters input/suggestions please...

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Showing 4 responses by audition__audio

As others have shared, there are types of noise that are intrinsic to the component and the tube itself. As geoff points out all tubes have some degree of microphonics and the gain of the component in which the tubes are used has a huge effect on this phenomenon. Placement or isolation of a component also can have positive results. I agree with ieales that damping, isolation or relocation of the component are where you should start. Hiss is usually a component issue. I do not like dampeners for numerous reasons not least of which is mentioned by Ralph at Atmasphere. 
Which post indicates insecurity? I have sold vacuum tubes on both a retail and wholesale basis for over 20 years so I think it fair to assume that I test more tubes in a day than you do in a year or perhaps over your entire life. Please tell me your vacuum tube qualifications other than using tube gear, albeit relatively pedestrian gear. You tend to believe that if you dont hear something that it doesnt exist. 
I dont see how anyone could ascribe a commercial interest in this conversation. Actually the number of microphonic tubes one encounters is directly dependent on the number of tubes used over the years and also the sensitivity of the application. As sensitivity increases so does the percentage of microphonic tubes you will encounter. Put a fork in me....this is hopeless.