Ever Damage A Stylus Using Cleaning Brush?


I’m having a moment of audiophile anxiety. Help me Obi Wans of this forum!

I’d been using the DS Audio ST50 gel cleaner for my Benz Micro Ebony L cartridge. Due to recent uncertainties about the possible liabilities of those type of cleaners I bought a carbon fiber stylus brush, from boundlessaudio.

I use the Audio Intelligent cleaning fluid.

Everything has been fine, and I’ve never been sure how much pressure to apply to brushing the needle, so I’ve always tried the lightest touch possible. Sometimes, though, the middle aged hands aren’t as steady and I can give it a bit more pressure than I was planning.

So last night I lifted up the needle mid track to clean the needle. Couple of very light brushes just skimming the bottom of the needle, always back to front of the needle as recommended. With the system still on I can also hear how light or not I’m brushing, hearing the sound coming through the speakers. But the last brush stroke went up a bit higher, slightly submerging more of the stylus giving it a bit of a bump up and a louder sound through the speakers. Didn’t think too much of it. But when I sat back to listen I could swear the sound had altered slightly, like the sound had gotten a tiny bit lightened, brightened, forward vs the "inky black background" I’d just been listening to.

Just how plausible is it that I may have damaged or shifted something in the stylus?

In thinking it through it seems to me if any real force had been applied, since the stylus was not at all locked in to the holder, it would have bounced the arm up somewhat. But didn’t. Second, it seems to me there is at least as much force simply dropping the needle on to the record.

But I could be wrong. And I don’t know if the tonal change was all in my head. (I’m hoping it is...but even listening today I still seem to perceive a slightly different tone).

Any thoughts on this truly First World problem?

 

 

prof

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@tylermunns My take on it would be to just stop using Onzo and give the stylus some good cleaning with a liquid stylus cleaner. Use magnifying glass or a USB microscope (if you have a digital camera with macro lens that can work too) to inspect the stylus and the cantilever. If you’re not seeing anything scary there, I’d just continue enjoying the music. Hey…didn’t mean to make you this worried…but I guess it’s too late for that hahaha. 

How about visually inspecting it with a magnifying glass? And after you verify it looks ok, listen to another record you are familiar with to confirm whether or not you’re hearing things.
Also, probably not a great idea to let all this come thru the speakers. I usually mute my preamp when I use the stylus brush.

Now back to @prof ’s problem. I’m suspecting overhang is the issue. We’ll wait until he responds if that was taken care of during set up. 

@prof
based on what you’re describing, if you’re hearing distortion I would look into the usual suspects…
1. your records are either dirty or worn out

2. the cartridge overhang is off. Have you set the overhang properly?

3. check your anti-skate

4. check your VTA and azimuth

5. see if the cartridge is adequately secured on the headshell and you’re not pulling it out of alignment little by little every time you brush the stylus.
6. your cartridge is done…needs replacement 

@tylermunns no problem. I stopped using the ZeroDust and instead use the brush included with the Hana cartridge.
Every 5-6 records I clean the stylus with MoFi LP-9 liquid stylus cleaner. 

@prof and @mulveling worth checking. If we’re not taking mm differences in overhang then you can easily get distortion. Not familiar with mint protractor. I used Dr. Feichert New Generation that gives you more precise adjustments using the pivot to spindle ruler that sets the protractor in the proper position for the overhang adjustment. None of this is exact science anyway. 
Also, I mentioned cartridge wear as the last possible option and yes it’s unlikely in that time frame to wear out a cartridge.

If you’re confident your overhang is correct then I rest my case. Just clean your records before you play them and you should not experience any distortion.