To test your theory, press play on a new (not previously played or downloaded) Tidal/Qobuz track and then immediately disconnect your ethernet cable from your streamer. Then please report back.
Ethernet opinions
Hello everyone, I finally got my system setup. I had a few setbacks the past few months. My mom had lung cancer and passed away a month ago. It has been a journey getting my system set up which is part of the fun. I am running Pass Labs XP-12, pass 250.8, and Bricasti M3. My original plan was to run the Bricasti with a EERO mesh network since the modem is on the opposite end of the listening space. Needless to say the EERO mesh would not work and Roon could not see my M3. I was on the phone with Bricasti trouble shooting the issue. I removed my M3 from the system and double checked everything with it hard wired to the modem which worked. I was told I could really use any Ethernet for the most part as long as it’s cat 5 or 6. Well, I returned the EERO and got a 25 foot Ethernet cable from Best Buy for 10 dollars. The sound is much better then I was guessing running a 10 dollar cable, for me it’s deff a temp fix. Especially since I bought two audio quest vodka cables. I am using one of them now connecting the room nucleus to the modem at the moment. I have read a bit about blue Jean cables which seem to hold spec. I don’t see me buying a longer Audio quest vodka cable given the cost. In some ways I feel like I spent more then I should have on the Vodka cables at this point. Opinions please ?
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@fredrik222 No one serious about their music quality uses the Qobuz/Tidal app and I have heard qualitative differences between ethernet cables. Now, STFU and finish cutting Carlsbad's lawn, Cleeds is waiting on you as well. |
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I wish I didnt hear marked differences between high quality cable A, high quality cable B and the excellent linkup/Amazon cable. While my own experience is far from scientific, I found streamed Qobuz/Tidal music over the Linkup sounded excellent but several considerable steps behind the same tracks stream from the internal storage of my server/streamer. High quality cable A sounded better but still behind those streamed from the internal drive and high quality cable B (my current reference) streamed files sound virtually indistinguishable from the files on the internal drive.
Try things and if you don’t hear a positive difference then don’t keep them. Don’t believe anything or anyone but your ears. |
@fredrik222 I read your CV that you proudly posted a while back so I am aware that you are a computer and data networking expert. Of that I have no doubt. Not only do I not give a dog's bollocks, I find you arrogant and pushy with your knowledge. You know more about networking than I ever will and I know about what I enjoy listening to in my system than you ever will. Others feel the same way...you have few if any meaningful interactions here. Of course you are welcome to be the bird that continuously drops poo on every discussion if you like, I'm rather indifferent and others may or may not be.
The shelf life of pushing your expertise on others here as a defacto final arbiter on what other people hear in their systems and in their homes has reached the end of its relevance. |
I havent called you any names. Point to it please. I did make a sarcastic inference that your time might be better spent cutting the lawn...for which I am not in the least regretful.
The most important point you make is you seem to believe that someone asked you to protect them from something...if they did, it wasn’t me. I believe what I hear, the differences aren’t subtle and when they are, I say it. I’m not trying to sell anything or tout one method over another. That’s for the individual to decide. Many of us here have formed relationships and when we have experience with something and they ask, we chime in. Its the way a community works. If you don’t agree, cool, if you disagree, cool.
You seem to think that because you work in networking that it will change some minds. It might, just not mine. I was bullheaded and inflexible before I experienced it myself. In fact, I sold a successful IT company many years ago and understood digital prior to you reaching puberty. Ones and zeroes.....I sang from the same hymnal....until I experienced otherwise. There is literally nothing you can offer that will change my mind but dont take it personally. It isnt personal but if your sole purpose for being on Audiogon is to convert the masses to the cult of ASR then you are wasting your not so precious time. |
Frederik, you have me mixed up with someone else...I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I KNOW what I hear and I know that cable A sounds better than cable B and cable B sounds substantially better than a popular generic cable touted in this very thread. Given your deep dive into how all is cached and they are bit perfect.... then if they sound different from one another it must be the cable if all else is constant. With that said, you don't have to go to any trouble writing a reply because I can't think of anyone who wants your opinion here. Certainly not me. |
Fred, since you asked I use Grimm MU1 streamer-server/DCS Apex dac/Audio Note Jinro amp/Devore speaker setup at home. I have a Roon Nucleus+/Hifi Rose 150b/Sugden IA4 amp/Devore speaker setup at the office for background music.
Frederic, why do you even frequent Audiogon? You claim there is absolutely no difference between digital cables and yet most who experience the difference, good and bad, take your insistence and inflexibility as a clear mark of ignorance. Your repeated insistence only cements those opinions.
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@fredrik222 I don’t recall saying anything about “no cacheing”…you’ve still yet to point to where I called you a name. Your continuous, irrelevant posts are really cute though… |
@grh1958 Indeed, there are gains to be had optimizing the ethernet stream. Many won’t agree, however, with the idea that a counterfeit versus a close copy is an option. |