Ethernet Cables, do they make a difference?

I for one say thet yes they do make a difference, I have just replaced a 30 foot ethernet cable with one made with better materials and rfi and other screens. and I have to say I am very pleased with the results, the treble especially is less pronounced and altogether much more believable. Yes I do know some of you will say i am imagining it but what I say is this the person who changes a cheap fairly long cable and replaces it with a very wll made shielded cable and dosn't hear a differense is needing their ears cleaned out

Talking about just using my ears, isn't that what we are supposed to be doing in this hobby of ours. Can anyone say that they have listened to say three ethernet cables and one is made of copper, one of silver and one a cheap bit of wire and say there is no difference in quality from each. That is utter codswollop because there is going to be a difference in the copper and the silver straight away and if your ears are clean you will definitely hear it. If not save yourself a lot of money and buy a boombox.

kosst_amojan

Do you have an open mind or is your mind made up before you do any listening ? I don’t have the money to splash out on unnecesary pieces of wire so if I didn’t hear a difference I wouldn’t be buying it just to salve my imagination as you put it.

@amg56
I think the argument is if your are happy to spend the money on cables or componentry because YOU feel there is a difference in your listening environment, be free to do so because IMHO THAT is what HiFi is about. Yes there is the physics, chemistry and quantum.... but each of us is different and appreciate changes differently. The micro arguments and opinions are worthless really. Just ego chest pumping

I agree with you 100% that is why I am not going to waste my time and precious listening time with this thread so game over for me. I am fed up with ludites who will not even let someone else have a say without even having the good manners to have their say without resorting to fasehoods.
Seemingly it is all in my imagination and that to a man that went through up till he was in his 30s playing classical guitar at a level where I was giving concerts regularly. When family comitments changed and my wife became ill I had to give it all up and care for her but do remember I still have my ears , they are quite perceptive yet and I do know what I am looking for so it is not all in my imagination.

@grmThat test you conducted is I feel a good way to do it, have non audiophiles help you out. That way they are using their ears only and as far as I am concerned the only way to go. I remember in the 70s there was a raging debate over sound versus science and the two protaganiste were Peter Walker of Quad and some of the staff of Hi Fi News and Record Revew and the gist of it was that Mr Walker said that specifications would win over percieved sound quality. Now we know that Mr Walker did make good products in his time but no one I know have ever said that his 405 current dumping amplifier was in the upper eschelons of the best amplifiers of the day. I myself had one and although it drove my ESL57s well when I changed to dynamic loudspeakers it was dull and lack lustre but it had superb figures on the test bench. The upshot was that HFN tested the 405 against an amplifier which didn't measure up anything like the Quad did and I am sorry but I don't remember which amplifier that was used but when they did their extensive tests this other amplifier was way above the Quad in terms of sound quality and enjoyment thereof. Mr Walker declined to participate in the test.The amplifier I switched to was made by Meridian and it was altogether a different beast where it had better sound quality and far more believable dynamics. Just as today Quad in their day had a lot of zealous followers who would not believe that their Quad products could be beaten by another brand. So today we have people who will not attest the fact that something as stupid as a piece of wire can make an improvement to the sound quality of an audio system . Another analogy that I put forward is people spend vast amounts of money on amps and speakers today and only to put cheap wire between the components is anathema to me. Would you put Ford Focus brakes on a Maseratti or cheap petrol in a Ferarri Testarossa no I don't think so. So lets just keep our better sound quality to ourselves and leave the people who think it is all in our imagination to go home and close their doors and be blissfully unaware of the improvements that they could make.
Jim.

@kosst_amojan
Can you please tell me whose truth we have to believe, should it be yours maybe ? Tell me what about the people who depend most on their hearing, the musicians who have kindly produced the media that you listen to are you saying that they are not to be trusted because they may hear what you claim not to hear namely getting that little bit closer to what we are all searching for namely realism. These people have to trust their ears day in day out .Tell me can you tell an A minor chord from a B minor chord without looking at the keys when it is played. Many people I know can and I'd rather trust their ears than yours. So when some of them tell me that they have changed a piece of wire and they notice a difference in sound then I am going to believe them a lot quicker than you telling me there cannot possibly be because you know it cannot be true scientifically.
Well look what scientists in the nineteenth century were saying that we are all descended from apes and there could be no God. Well tell that to the billions who believe in him anyway.