I have a K-01 and VAC sig SE. I was initially using the K-01 as a preamp to drive my power amps directly and it worked great (you have to change the esoteric settings for it to act as a pre). Ran it this way for many months. Then I inserted the VAC pre. I preferred the sound over using the K-01 directly as a pre. It just seemed to make the sound richer and took off the digital edge. I will say if you dont use vinyl and can avoid a pre this is a tough decision given the high cost of a good preamp. Hope this helps