Erik Y U Gotta Hate!

" He is one of the messiah’s of modern day audio, "

...and we’ve seen what happens when That....and Kool-Aid, sneakers, UFO’s, and all manner of ’statements’ flow.....

It’s an Amplifier.

Sorry but with that kind of statement you have no idea on what Nelson Pass has given to modern day "solid state amp design" since the 70’s starting with.
https://www.passdiy.com/download.php?download_file=/images/uploads/project/a40.pdf

As I have said before I don’t like the sound of his later "Mosfet Amps", I much prefer his earlier "Bi-polar designs", but I don’t do what Eric is doing, by going out of his way to start threads belittling NP designs without knowing **** about design himself.

Cheers George

George:

This is slander, as others have replied to you, my Pass threads were quite neutral and I took no position other than to ask questions and get specific insight. Your brown stained glasses are the only reason you see this.

Sorry fact Eric, as many others have said before me, you must be immune to the comments or something if you think you are "quite neutral" to Nelson Pass.

You start threads and posts on Pass Labs amps and you cherry pick what "only you think" are the faults, to "try" to imply there is something inherently wrong with the Pass design.

He is one of the messiah’s of modern day audio, you have not even a minute piece of technical knowledge/info, that could counter what he has to offer the audio world.

Some say Nelson Pass must have shun you at a show once or something for you to have this kind of negativity against him and his amps.
  
I think maybe it’s his comments about your beloved Class-D amps that haunts you so much.

Nelson Pass (Threshold, Passlabs) on Class-D
"Does a $10 bottle of wine compete with a $100 bottle? Of course it does, and it often wins based on price. Right at the moment Class D designers seem to be still focusing on the objectively measured performance of their amplifiers. I expect that at some point the economics of the marketplace will encourage them to pay more attention to the subjective qualities, and then they will probably play a greater role in the high end."

What ever it is, leave Nelson Pass alone, stop starting negative threads on his designs and no one will jump on you then.

timlub
there are plenty of brands that I don’t love.

Do/would you, go out of your way, to single out and start (quite a few now) degrading threads on a manufacturer you don’t like??, like he does with Pass Labs?

To this date Nelson Pass is one of the heralded and praised audio designers this world has known.

I don’t like the "sound of Mosfets" and his later Mosfet designs (understand, Mosfets are much more bomb/idiot proof).
I much prefer his earlier Bi-Polar designs that had far more current available (but can go Chernobyl), but I appreciate totally what he does with the Mosfets.

He’s always used low feedback and sometimes only "local" not "global" feedback in his designs, that’s why he doesn’t get the 0.0001% distortion figures, that "others" get only because of **** loads of feedback around their amps.

Cheers George

To the couple Eric lovers, you must be blind, just look at his history of starting anti Pass Labs threads.
And this one started by markum01 OP is just a "retaliation thread" to the dirt digging anti Pass one Eric posted just 22hrs beforehand, wake up and smell the roses.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/stereophile-pass-integrated-and-personal-taste

Erik the big difference is you go out of your way the start new anti Pass Labs threads, even though you word them in such a way as trying to being objective.

By the same standards, what is wrong with all of you that you hate neutral, low distortion amps?

If you know anything about feedback, you know how technically inept what you just said is. The best amps in the world have little or local only feedback. You need to do more research.
Designers like John Curl, Nelson Pass, Dan D’agostino, Gryphon ect ect ect use as little negative feedback as they can, sometimes even only using just local feedback instead of global.
This little feedback always sounds better if the design is a solid design to start with, instead of having feedback higher just so the amp can be cleaned up and can then get better advertised THD figures and lower output impedances.

Hey Erik, big difference sunshine, unlike you I don't start "hatred threads" that single out a particular manufacturer like you do.
I have my generalized negative or positive say on ones that are already being discussed, by other OP's   

Erik I don’t understand why U Gotta HatePass Labs

+1 after seeing the latest anti Pass Labs thread he started yesterday, just another one of many.

Cheers George