I have the Mapleshade brass triple points, maple boards, High hats, and those cork things. I have heard very expensive racks that don't sound as good as what mapleshade offers. Not a bad way to go. I have them loaned out to a friend. It is a bit cheaper than a Neuance board and rack. It does not come close in performance compared to the Neuance. Spend the few extra dollars when you can. Even if you have to wait a bit longer you will be very happy you did. Can't help you on the Symposium as i have not heard them. I did hear from a Symposium owner who sold their stuff after hearing either the Neuance or Sistrum. I have not tried Subaruguru's idea. I do trust his judement. If what he says is true, the Neuance becomes a better bargin than either products you are considering. And don't forget sonics.