Dynamic range - effect on different speaker cables - even very high quality ones
Vivaldi and to onhwy61 What do you mean by parallel? and your saturation comment is wrong too - basically a posting that is impossible to comprehend |
How is it that you continuously miss the point of anything? Your system is substandard as it does not allow you to hear the absolute obvious that others can hear. It is quite clear you should not apply your so limited experiences to others who can hear the differences. And why do you get involved in a thread that has nothing to gain from your limited abilities. I asked a specific question from my own real experiences, and you want to say that I am lying as I cannot possibly hear the difference between two £20k + speaker cables, that you have never been anywhere near, let alone see or hear them. If you cannot contribute to a thread then don't do so. |
douglas_schroeder
I have looked at your system - it seems your level of quality is well below mine, so you need to grab what is called "humility". Compared with my system I can quite justifiably say you are playing at it and behind the game a bit. Decrying others when you have some way to go yet is delusional (reminds me of a few others on this forum) |
ieales
" @OP please read http://www.ielogical.com/Audio/CableSnakeOil.php to help understand how cable interact with components. " I have read it and have rarely seen such bunkum. A few minutes wasted of my life. Figures all over the place and not a sane conclusion to be seen. For example "Burn In is BUNK!" Now that is sheer and rank ignorance. Yet again I despair of some people |
douglas_schroeder
"You are not beginning to approach cables properly until dealing with full sets. Otherwise, you are playing at it - as most audiophiles do. " "Full sets" .. no idea what you are talking about mate and I am "playing at it"? What a pompous comment ..... based on what? Are you above all this then? What is your system, that says that I am playing at mine? Please advise what the end of the play line comprises. |
Millercarbon " Point being its very hard to get it all just right. Its also very hard to know when it is being done just right. That’s because the exact same problem we hear with this one speaker cable is repeated across every wire and component in our system, and on up the recording chain as well." Did your actually read my post? The problem is NOT repeated across every wire or component. That was the whole point of my message, so I really cannot appreciate your generalisation, when I specifically described my reality and obvious, and strange differences in two cables with rrp in excess of £20k each. Another poster wrote his $390 cable was the best ever. Chaps, can we up the game a bit and try and explain the issue. If no-one knows, then fair do, the issue will be unexplained until I find the right source/font of knowledge. I just thought some Audiogoner might have come across. something similar. No problem if not. |
tbakin63 Oh dear oh dear The inadequacies of various people on this forum make me despair of the future of this world. How does the world work with such absolute tosh being spouted. For your information, all people I know can tell the difference in cables, shame that you think I am deceiving myself. The answer actually is clear .. you have a 2 bit system that is so bad it cannot demonstrate anything to do with hi fi. In fact you have no idea what hi fi is. Just don’t tell people who do know that they do not, as really you have no idea |
douglas_schroeder "It seemed clear to me that when a person expresses confusion, ignorance of the potential outcomes of mixing cables, which can vary widely, as demonstrated in the OP, that they are not employing proper methodology in system establishment. Ergo, my response was more relevant than realized. " Are you saying I am ignorant of the potential outcomes of mixing cables? That is a stupid thing to say, where did you get that from? I was writing about the effect of different cables, demonstrating very clearly that I am aware of the effect of different cables. And not employing proper methodology in system establishment ... ??? Are you a civil servant with no proper job? Writing incomprehensible words like that shows a lack of touch with the real world, but I have come to that conclusion some time ago. Gosh I despair of some people ... |
and ...... more from that apology of an article .. who is that pathetic author anyway? "Now, consider the situation with watches. Has any ultra-high-priced watchmaker ever claimed that the ’quality’ of the time told by their watch is superior to that from ’ordinary’ watches, or that the ’sense’ of the time has greater depth and more ’chi’? Maybe they just haven’t thought of that angle yet, but I expect that this is unlikely. The simple fact is that these pieces of jewellery are finely crafted and superbly executed timekeepers, but are usually no better or worse than ’lesser’ brands that do exactly the same job. The situation with cables is no different - you may choose to pay outlandish prices to get something that looks amazing, and demonstrates to everyone how much money you have, but it will not make a magical difference to the sound, there will be few (if any) real differences in the electrical characteristics, and it will sound much the same as ’lesser’ cables, selling at perhaps 100th of the price." My case rests The lunatics have taken over the asylum.WHY ARE YOU ON AUDIOGON IF YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN YOUR OWN DEVELOPMENT? THE REASON IS CLEAR ... you are so inadequate that you want to control others to make up for your own significant shortcomings. You have no interest in the subject matter, but have great interest in thinking your own ignorance should have some influence in your small world. You know SO little, yet your self opinion knows no bounds. Just create another thread so circulate yourselves all together in your little worlds, just keep off generally in fact, you have NOTHING to offer ANYONE |
well let's look at 3 bullet points in that article
Yet again, a naysayer hijacks the question posed and it naturally degenerates into puerile diatribes. Keep off subjects raised, unless you have the faintest idea what the question is! As expected, all the silly comments come from naysayers - it comes with your ignorance |
