DSP vs. active analog crossover vs. passive analog crossover. What is your take?


What is you take on the sound quality?  Any personal experience and knowledge on the subject will be greatly appreciated. 

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Considering that Mobile Fidelity got away with sneaking a A/D conversion and a D/A conversion into their Original Master LPs for fifteen years perhaps analog purist aren't as able to hear digital processing as they have believed themselves to be.  Online I have been called a tin eared apostate heretic because I use a DEQX DSP to crossover, control and regulate my DIY fully horn loaded triamplified speakers. I've been asked by analog purists why I even bother to play LPs on my Clearaudio turn table since the digital process is going to "obviously" screw up the sound.

My system wouldn't be possible with analog crossovers since I use folded corner horns for the bass and midrange and super tweeter horns well out into the room for better imaging.  Counting the horn path inside the bass bins plus the actual physical separation between woofers and mids the acoustic centers of those drivers are nearly seventeen feet apart.  Yet with DSP the timing is adjusted so that they sound as though the acoustic centers of those drivers are within less than 1/8" of each other.  Also I really like the blend of the three drivers with all roll off slopes set at 96dB per octave.  Neither I nor my audiophile friends are able to hear the 200 Hz crossover point between the woofer horns and midrange horns with test tones, frequency sweeps or music. The same is true of the mid to super tweeter crossover.

I  don't doubt that the DSP exacts some toll on the SQ though I can't hear it.  But then so would analog crossover with even the best component parts.  Obviously my vote is for DSP.

 

@kingharold

"I don’t have exactly the same problems like you since my horn is dual concentric from 22k down to 400 Herts (it might even go down to 200 H since most likely I would let the dual 12" low midrange speakers go full range). However, I’m interested to learn more about DSD and if nothing else I can use it as a tool. Do you mind telling me which DSD processor are you using? Thank you.

P.S. Are you really a king? Just kidding....."

 

 

No, thanks be unto God (if he exists), I am not a king. I suppose I was just in a funky mood when I joined this forum. Since I am brain damaged,(two TBI in the line of duty) rapid cycling manic depressive when I get in a funky mood that has an entirely different meaning from the usual one. On all the other audio forums I visit I use my real name, Don Reid. I wish I knew how to change my username on this forum to my real name. By the way the TBI didn’t make me stupid, just a bit crazy.

I use a DEQX DSP which uses PCM coding, not DSD. DEQX is coming out with a new line of DSPs, supposedly this quarter. I wish they would use the DSD, but I doubt it. Whatever they use I am looking forward to upgrading.

I use Bill Fitzmaurice designed HT Tuba folded corner horn bass bins driven by 15" woofers which at 200 Hz cross over to Oris 150 horns with AER BD3 drivers. The Oris AER combo plays the range from 200 Hz up to 8 kHz where Fostex t900a bullet tweeters take over. Thanks to DSP the system is remarkably flat from 25 HZ where the output is identical to that of the 1 kHz reference output up to a little over 20kHz. The roll off below 25 Hz is typical for a horn loaded woofer.

I place great value on the system being fully horn loaded. Horn bass is the icing on the cake. It lends a smooth continuity and rightness to the SQ that I don’t feel is achievable by hybrid systems mixing horns with other bass alignments.

Thanks for your interest.

 

Hey, phusis.  I only use two HT Tuba folded corner horns.  Considering that the enclosures are eighteen cubic feet each even that occupies a fair amount of floor real estate.  Besides that my room only has two suitable corners.