Down sizing


I'm thinking of downsizing. I'd like to replace a Primare pre 32 preamplifier, Musical Fidelity M6 vinyl preamplifier and a vintage Tandberg TR 2060 receiver with a preamplifier that has a phonostage, pre out for a subwoofer and XLR in and out. I'd prefer SS but might consider tubes. I'm presently running my TT to the Musical Fidelity then the Tandberg. My computer goes to the DAC=>Preamp=Power amp. The problem is having to change up the speaker cables when switching back and forth from the Tandberg to the power amp. I want a preamp that can handle the analog vinyl and SS computer sides in one box. I like (near) analytical sound, but meaty and a precise sound stage. I don't care for a warm sound, so as close to neutral as possible. Budget 5K max used. Any suggestions? I've noticed some preamps have "Main Out" (Audio Research SP20, McIntosh C2200). Is that the same as Pre Out? Can I connect a subwoofer to a "Main Out?"

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@jetter I thought about an integrated, but I don't want to give up separates, (preamp, power amp and DAC). I really like my DAC, it can upsample any music file to DSD 48/512.

I have 1 pair of speakers that are connected to the receiver or power amp by bi-wiring, (both receiver and power amp have A+B speaker capabilities). So when I'm spinning vinyl the pathway is:

TT=>phono preamp=>Tandberg Receiver.

When I listen to computer music files the pathway is:

computer=>DAC=>preamp=>Primare A32 power amp.

An all-in-one preamp conveniently combining inputs for the vinyl and digital would negate me having to switch speaker cables just because I wanted to throw on an album after listening to some digital tracks on the computer (or vice versa).

@fuzztone I don't see how the switch box would work with bi-wired speakers. But the Sanders looks interesting.

@soix I'd appreciate it if you could name those few preamps with a good phono stage. As I mentioned earlier, I'd be trading out the new preamp for 3 boxes (preamp, phono preamp, and receiver).

 

@curiousjim , I am presently running 2 systems. One vinyl, the other digital. Both systems share the same speakers. The speakers are bi-wired. So If I want to listen to a record after listening to computer files (or vice versa), I have to move speaker cables back and forth between the Tandberg receiver and the Power amp. I want to stop this.

System 1 Vinyl playing path:

Pioneer TT

Musical Fidelity M6 Vinyl Phonostage

Tandberg Receiver

System 2 Digital playing path:

Computer

DAC

Preamp

Power amp

I want a new preamp that has: 

1)     Built-in Phonostage

2)     Pre out for subwoofer

3)     XLR in connections for my DAC and out connections for my power amp.

The new preamp with built-in phonostage would replace:

1)     Primare Pre32 preamp (has no phonostage)

2)     Tandberg vintage receiver

3:     Musical Fidelity M6 Vinyl phonostage

The TT would then be directly connected to the "new" Preamp/phonostage box. Both the digital and vinyl sides would be connected to the "new" Preamp/phonostage and play from the Power amp. No more speaker cable switching and eliminating the need for the Tandberg receiver. 3 old boxes gone, 1 to replace them all  :)

Fuzztone mentioned a switching device that lets him use one set of speakers between 2 amps. No the Tandberg doesn’t have a pre out. It has Tape1 Tape 2 and Phono.. 6 or 8 pin inputs that connect RCA or XLR. I used the Tandberg for the TT because the analog sound was lucious. The Primare is very good too so I’m ready to let everything go through it. Don't need anything with an onboard DAC. I like the one I have.

I’ve run everything through the Primares in the past. Just wanted a touch of warmth added on the vinyl side which the Tandberg did. Would tubes help with that? What would be the downside of a tube preamp? Kind of dreaming of an Audio Research SP 20...

Thank you all for the advice and encouraging words. Seriously thinking about the switch box, but concerned if there will be any degradation in the sound quality or sound staging. My vintage TT isn't anywhere near top of the line and I don't listen to a lot of vinyl. But what I do listen to is mostly from my childhood and teen years. The Primare amp is great but the vintage receiver and TT produce a sweet musical analog sound like I haven't heard since those "younger years." As they say "a bird in the hand is worth 2..."