Doug Decan I think there is a new ZYX 4D cartridge

I don't believe there's a "war" here Mothra.

The discussion has focused on the Universe (an extremely fine cartridge), other Zyx cartridges, the Universe's peer group, and retail/selling prices.

You've made a pleasing choice for your system and that's what matters.

There are a number of top flight cartridges that will meet or exceed the Universe in this regard IMO having owned two of them.

However, you buy and listen to that which pleases your personal budget and preferences.

And the only opinion that matters is your own.

I did not mention any brand and/or model.

Had I done so, a disclosure would have been included.

Nice try.

Concerning my first post let me correct any misunderstanding as my wording was poor. The first paragraph should have read:

"Having owned two Universes, IMO there are a number of top flight cartridges that will meet or exceed it with regards to the timing issue Doug mentioned".

Sorry I was unclear.

Thomas,
When you are the sole supplier of a proprietary product the MSRP, in this case $8.5K, is a meaningless figure and totally unrelated to the actual selling price.