Double up on Kimber Kable 4TC??

HDM,

Thanks for your impression of the difference between 4tc and 8tc. As to the gauge of two 4tc I am baffled. On one hand, if the wires are the same, two 4tc should equal one 8tc. On the other hand, two 13 gauge wires equal a 10 gauge wire and not a nine gauge.

2chnlben,

I agree. If your system is already on the bright side, they will not help your system and might make things a bit worse.

2chnlben and Darrylhifi,

May I ask whether you connected the two 4tc the way HDM did or you you kept them separate. I am tempted by the latter, but I am worried that this configuration will increase the inductance. So I am curious about your experience. Thanks.

2chnlben,

There seems to be no problem with the way you doubled up the 4tc, and from the reports of others it seems that you create something that is very close to 8tc. My guess would be that it might even be better than 8tc, because one of the problems with 8tc is a slighty excessive bass. By doubling up 4tc, you have a small gauge (10) than 8tc, and perhaps a lower capicitance. The only question is whether one can do even better by separating the 4tc. One person who tried it claims that by doing this one can preserve 4tc's superiority in transparency while adding some weight in the bass. perhaps in the next few weeks I will buy some extra 4tc to try this.

2chnlben,

I did get a chance to do some experiments. First, I doubled up my 4tc and kept the + and - cable five inches apart. It was a major improvement over a single run, better bass and no bad side effects. After several weeks, I felt that perhaps there was a bit of whiteness ( I cannot describe it better) in the upper frequencies so I put the + and - length together in a loose spiral. This further improved the base and the whiteness disappeared but perhaps there was tiny amount of less detail in upper frequencies. Now, this second arrangment is not the same as yours, but I suspect they are close. So based on my experience I would say that you should keep your arrangment. You should try to separate your runs only if you think that your base is too heavy. I should also say there was a big change going from 1 4tc to 2, but only a very minor change going from seperated runs to the spiral. One last note my system is bit light on bass so I cannot say which of the two arrangments are more neutral

Todster,

The latter is the right way to biwire, because the main reason to biwire is to separate the highs and lows. I should not that I was not biwiring. I was simply doubling up 4tc to increase the aggregate gage of my wire.

2chnlben,

I am happy with my homegrown audio silver lace, but if I were to buy a new interconnect today I would try something with Eichman plugs. I have not tried them, but their principle makes sense. There was also a recent discussion in Audioasylum for an interconnect without connectors, which seemed very interesting. The idea was to attach the negative wire with an 0 ring.