Does anyone have Audioquest red wild or wel speaker cables?


Does anyone here have the higher end Audioquest speaker wire like the redwood wildwood and the wel?
joey_v

Can’t see myself spending a sports car on the new dragons

@joey_v Definitely not! The new Zero tech’s "magic" didn’t reveal itself sonically in Thunderbird Zeros, at least for me. I still heard "too much copper, I want some silver" there. I think the crux of the new "Zero" tech, after you cut through marketing fluff, is simply that the + and - groups are individually shielded from each other to eliminate inductance. That’s it. I hear some difference with the power cables, and it’s good, but that’s also moving a lot more power than a speaker cable (or certainly an interconnect!).

The bad news is that the current top Audioquest copper cables now cost more than their top pure silver cables from a couple generations ago. And the new silver cables might was well be priced for pure gold :(

Nice 8ft pairs of WildWoods started coming up for relatively cheap the past few months (low 2K's versus 17K MSRP), so I bought a couple pairs and replaced all ends with brand new 1007 spades. I double biwire with the 2 pairs.

I REALLY like these cables. Nice balance between warmth of copper and detail of silver. Absolutely gorgeous tonality, especially with tube amps. My memory on Redwood is hazy but I think it had a similar natural tone, coherence, and ease to it. It's really system dependent whether you'd benefit from more silver (more detail, lose a bit of warmth) or less silver than a Wildwood, but It think it hits a nice balance for most. I'd previously tried an all-copper Thunderbird Zero (no biwire) from the new line, and it just fell flat in my system. Think I just gotta have a good bit of silver in my cables. 

Before getting these WildWoods, I sold my double Kilimanjaro (with 1007 spades) to a friend and I still don't know why the hell I did that. Those were all-silver and detailed as hell but didn't go over the top with it; somehow they still had a touch of natural warmth / sweetness to them. The WildWoods are a little less detailed but a little sweeter sounding. It's a VERY close call between the two. I still regret selling the Kilis, though. Configuration on the double Kilis is the same as one WEL Signature, btw.

I have both the redwoods and wild speaker cables.

The redwoods are a bit slimmer than the wild.  The Wild has more resolution but the redwoods are excellent.  Difference is not so much.  They share the same effortless musical reproduction.  
I was lucky enough to try other speaker cables like Valhalla in my system.  I liked the overall presentation of audioquest the best. 
Though the two systems where the redwoods and wild play are dramatically different.  I enjoy both very much. 
1. Redwoods, devialet 1000pro, sonus faber Amati anniversary. 
2. Wilds, triode labs parallel 45 tube amp (4.5 watt), omega super alnico monitor. 
 

wild is better in midrange and highs, redwoods still excellent presentation. 
I did not like the oaks in my systems. 
good luck. 

The fakes are on eBay now for around $500 so I suspect many more will have fake ones.  
I have the fake wel speaker cables confirmed after you sending me the photos of yours. Thanks. I have yet to find a real pair of these for sale anywhere 
To complete the thread, I bought a pair of Audioquest WEL (newest version) speaker cables and I am 100% happy with them.  Anyone looking for input, just PM me.  Not a lot of info or owners of this wonderful end-game cable out there.  
I auditioned a single-biwire 8’ Redwood in my system a couple years ago. Nice cable, but I tuned them down to stick with my biwire of Mont Blanc (prior series; like half an Oak) on bottom and KE-4 up top -- which has slightly less metal overall, but slightly more PSS silver. As expected, the Redwood had slightly better smoothness and coherence overall, whereas my biwire had a touch more treble sparkle and maybe detail. It was quite close overall, which is why I didn’t drop a ton of cash for the Redwood. I would’ve upgraded if it were significant.

I recently replaced the KE-4 with a Kilimanjaro (like half a WEL in PSS content), which when biwired with Mont Blanc makes for a cable almost identical in geometry and awg to the tree series, and with overall PSS/PSC+ metal content that places it between the Redwood and Wild Wood. I’m going off memory but I’d say it’s at least incrementally better than a Redwood. The KE-4 is now making for a great dedicated supertweeter cable, too.

I think you’d want a Wild if you’re concerned with getting close to the very top performance, but the list prices are stratospheric. A good used deal is bound to come up. The Redwood is really nice sounding but I think it should be priced lower for what it offers ($8800 list for an 8’ pair is too much for a mostly PSC+ cable). One thing about the newer AQ tree series -- cosmetically, they’re on another level beyond the prior counter-spiral series.

I’ve also been upgrading my interconnects to Wind/Sky/Wild level, and those have been fruitful upgrades so far -- the resolution difference between the Colorado and a good PSS silver IC are fairly striking.
Haven't heard Red or Wel but am curious.  The Wild is several steps beyond the Oak, so yes it's worth it to me.  
Oak sounds like a stereo amp, Wild sounds like mono blocks.  Image placement is much improved along with a greater sense of hall ambiance.  Oak hadn't any glare unless caused by the music.  With Wild all but the nastiest recordings are improved. 
Is the imaging better, the 3D effect, and the blackness between notes?

When you say higher resolution, what do you mean?

Was there glare with the Oaks?
The Wilds have the same tonal balance as Oaks just with higher resolution in every parameter. 
How did the Wild compare to the Oaks?  I had the Oaks in my system and it sounded very good. 


The Wild replaced a set of Oaks which I had no complaints and is my only worthy comparison.  I'm pretty happy with their performance and have kept them now 5 years.  If you can demo, check them out.  
Wildwood SC with Wild Blue Yonder ICs.  If you have a well balanced sound it with enhance it.