do record cleaning fluids soften the treble?

If I may, can I then ask, and perhaps make a few conclusions-assumptions about these different viewpoints-opinions mentioned here?

What I have normally noted, when there was a rare, past time of playing any uncleaned records, was usually a higher degree of crud accumilation on the Stylus?

So, one question to the original poster, have you noted this as well? Why I ask, and my thoughts, are, if such is occurring, wouldn;t this then be a certain sign, that the Stylus is trying to plow a path through the groove?

Wouldn't this then have a greater degree of degradation, versus a cleaner groove?

Another thought is, can we then lump all makes-types of cleaning fluids, and rinses into the same boat, in that all that is made, can then cause these degrading qualities that some claim to note?

That even to a highly trained eye, that the uncleaned, brand spankin new record appears to be perfectly fine to play, wouldn't a certain degree of Stearates, and Mold Release products on the record's surface, and within the groove then be a benefit, or?

Just curious about this, because generally, most would no doubt find the exact opposite set of results with cleaning versus not cleaning.

Lastly, could it be a partciular cleaner-rinse, or a specific process that is being used, to cause less than optimal results? Mark

Hello Myles,
Yes, as I understand it, the VPI Typhoon is claimed to have twice the suction of the lesser VPI 16.5 RCM.

So, to ask further, are you then saying that this additional suction force is an advantage, or a possible detriment?

I do notice with my own VPI 16.5 RCM, when removing the final pure water AIVS Rinse, a tiny microscopic "mist", which quickly evaporates within a few seconds after.

I think all will agree, that the quality, and makeup of cleaner, and rinse used will play an influence, on just how much small detail information, and "air" would be robbed from a recording.

I would assume that this delicate information in the groove is not somehow being permanently removed, or damaged by a high quality cleaning-rinse process, and a good RCM?
Mark