@grunge1000 In regards to $2000 PCs, I think you'll find most here, me included, in thinking it's overkill. I've only spent as much as $500 for some PCs and found easily discernible differences and at that point, called it a day and just listened from there on out. The old law of diminishing returns held sway over me and I don't regret not looking further into it. But bog stock PCs just don't cut it for me. All the best, |
Your hypotheses of all the variances in power that a power line goes through in it's 100s of miles journey presupposes variances in its power delivery, cleanliness and stability, so why would it matter by the time you get in at your outlet. If I'm mistaken about that, let me know. As for taking it upon myself to go and try it out at some of the many points in that delivery line to prove it is patently laughable, if not a down right silly thing to ask. It's on you to go out and test your theories if you have any doubts. It's on you to prove members here wrong. There is no onus on anyone here to prove they hear a difference by measuring it as measurements aren't the only way to "hear" the differences. None other than Stan Warren (formerly of PS Audio) told me back in the late '80s of clean power delivery, its source and how far along the line you are to get decent power at your outlet. It was more than conventional wisdom at the time. It's the way it's understood and is from that old scientific method, observing. This was before the proliferation of EMI from all manner of in home devices and outside forces. Where I live, in the San Fernando Valley, AT&T has been using the power lines as a way of transmitting up to 5Gs of info across the valley. To think that all is hunky-dory and none of that makes it down to your outlet is wishful thinking, at best. If you think measurements are the end all to be all, then I have a bridge to sell you. Maybe you'd get more agreement over at ASR, where everyone tends to think like you and consensus runs high over there for more of that group feel and reassurance. All the best, |
How did you get "aging electrons" from this? It was never stated or implied. What's with the trolling? Is it that the more it makes sense, the more you refuse to entertain the idea? I'm glad you don't hear a difference but to pollute a thread on a subject that's been discussed to death makes it seem like you're bored. Do a "search discussions" on this subject and you'll be entertained (but apparently not swayed) for hours on end. All the best, |
Hook up your system to at any point in those 100s of miles of transmission, at step up transformers, step down transformers, at 25 yr old 6 GA and 12 GA wiring, and your system will sound different at all the points you choose. One can't argue that. What matters is how it sounds at the outlet where utilities code tells you it has to perform within tolerances there or it's not right. AFAIK the same code at the outlet doesn't apply to any point along those 100s of miles of transmission. Enough of that red herring argument. It's been shot down so long ago. How it keeps on like a zombie is beyond me. The same goes for power supplies in amps and sources. Some just make them good enough so as to not burn down your house and some can occupy the whole underside of some gear or require its own chassis. When made like the latter, I can see how different PCs would have little to no effect, but the majority of components aren't made that way. I've only heard slight differences but enough of one to choose one way over the other. Having heard the better way, how could one settle for less for not much more outlay? All the best, |
