Distributed Bass Array configuration


Please, I don't want to debate the merits of the DBA nor of those who espouse it. I am considering adding two more subwoofers to a system that has two already. To those who use a DBA,I am interested in how you have configured them, specifically--
  1. Do you run in mono, or do you split the array to run in stereo?
  2. What is your approach to setting phase (delay) among speakers that may be facing different directions and are different distances from the listener?
Thanks!
mike_in_nc

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audiokinesis
Regarding setting the levels ... finding the exact setting IS critical. The reason is, the ear’s heightened sensitivity to changes in SPL at low frequencies. A little bit of change in gain on the subwoofer amp translates to a disproportionate change in PERCEIVED loudness ...
That is completely false, notwithstanding your use of ALLCAPS for emphasis. See any basic audiology text for proof, which will show the range of increased sensitivity is typically in the midrange, 2000 - 5000 kHz. And that’s why the midrange of a hi-fi system is so critical to fidelity, even for those of us who also expect to hear the bass.

There is just so much misinformation about LF on these threads, but this was an especially glaring error.
noble101
There is no such thing as stereo bass below 80 Hz since it's a fact that humans cannot determine the originating location of any sound deeper than approximately 80 Hz.
That wasn't a fact back when you argued this under your old username (noble100). Remember? Tthat led to such vile, profane arguments from you that you were banned from the group. Now you're back with same same pronouncement.
If anyone thinks they're able to distinguish the specific originating location of bass below 80 Hz, I'd suggest testing this for themselves ...
Some of us have actually tested this, using both commercial and original recordings. You might want to try it for yourself sometime.
... Timing and arrival time of deep bass sound waves at an individuals ears are, therefore, also not anything to be overly concerned with since a 20 Hz bass tone sound wave is about 56 feet long, which likely exceeds the dimensions of at least the length or width of most domestic rooms ...
Non-sequitur.
The truth is ... we're still not able to determine specifically where these bass sound originated from if they're below about 80 Hz.
That's not quite true. Nor is that the standard for proving whether there is such a thing as stereo bass. Because phase matters, stereo bass can sound different than mono bass. It's not solely about localizing LF.
... Recording engineers have been routinely summing left and right bass under about 80 Hz as mono, and sometimes even higher, as a standard practice for over 4 decades.
It's not a universal practice and it originated as much for the convenience of the end user - to ensure trouble-free playback on cheap turntables - as it did to make things easier for the mastering engineer.
Because these recording engineers have known the truth about the myth of stereo deep bass for about the last 100 years, ever since scientists first discovered and formally established this fact through the scientific method. Don't believe me?
You do not know what you are talking about. First, we didn't have stereo 100 years ago. We didn't have the LP, either. Or tape. And I can prove to you through simple measurement that there is such a thing as "stereo bass." That is, I can show you that it is possible for bass recorded and played back in stereo to sound different from the same recording with bass summed to mono. 

@noble100 @noble101 you might want to get your head out of Secrets of Home Theater and your tattered copies of Stereo Review and stop fabricating imaginary scientific studies. You might also want to review the references about this that I gave you before you were banned from the forum, because you are just making yourself look silly here. After all, if those scientific studies you claim were conducted 100 years ago actually existed, the researchers surely would have posted them to the internet, right?

To be clear, mono bass can sound great, and it's often the best and easiest way to get good bass in some rooms. So as compromises go, accepting mono bass is a small one.