Distortion with ARC Ref 150 and Maggie 3.7


I have this problem that drive me nuts for quite a while. I purchased a like new fully balanced ARC Ref 150 tubes amp through Audiogon for my single ended only CAT SL1 Ultimate preamp and connected both with a RCA to XLR interconnect. It sounded okay with most recording but has awful distortion with certain recording specifically piano and vocal. Some of this recording happens almost on entire record but some only on certain musical passage. Most of the time with higher pitch or peak of music or higher volume.

For your information I listen to vinyl only most of the time and more on Jazz music. Other component listed as follow:

Turntable: Sota Nova, Tonearm: Origin Live Illustrious, Cartridge: Dynavector XV1-S, Step up transformer: Bob's Device CineMag 1131 (Blue) feeding directly to CAT's own phonostage, Speaker: Magneplanar Magnepan 3.7. Power cords, ICs, Speaker cable, Autoformer: Paul Speltz Anti-Cable.

Trouble shooting which has been done includes: checking preamp tubes condition and checking power amp bias. Since ARC claims their Ref 150 was design for balanced preamp only so I also tested by replacing it with single ended tubes amp but the distortion remain. As for the cartridge I believe I have done the alignment pretty accurate with the Mint's Best Tractor but not very sure with the azimuth.

While tested with my other 2 pair of speakers, one which has higher spec show the same problem while the lower spec one seems get rid of distortion. So I suspected the issue probably was with the new Maggie. Called the dealer and he performed a test with his transistor amp with no distortion at all. So he assumed my Maggie is okay. Is it true that the Maggie only good with transistor amps?

By now it leaves me with total confusion! Sincerely hope fellow audiophile here could give me some advice and save me from this endless misery !

Thanks very much in advance!
pakwong

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I think, you overload your phonsection. Distortion has nothing to do with Antiskate, Azimuth or wrong alignment when you only can hear it in the upper frequencies when the dynamics start to rise. "This" kind of distortion in Phono is normally the result when the SUT is too strong( or the cartridge is too strong for the SUT, you can see it this ways or the other way). 0.3mV MC run normally easy with 60-63dB, sometimes a bit more but not much. Try to loan a SUT with 10dB less, just for a check or when one of your friends owns a cartridge with 0.20mV, try to loan it. Next is the output power from your Preamp to your power amp. When the Pre drives the amp easily, this kind of distortion becomes much more present even at lower volume.
If both KEF and Maggie suffer the same distortion from the Ref 150, and no sign of anomalies from other components, is it possible that I've purchased a defected Ref 150? Or simply because the Ref 150 did not match the Maggie perfectly?

I think you narrowed it to the Ref 150.
This problem has nothing to do with a "mismatch" with a speaker, when your Phono Input is ok and based on your own comparisons, the Ref 150 has a defect part inside.
I have to believe that single ended and balanced components does have mating problem. It seems like many balanced only component were designed to match with other similar or same manufacturer component only.

No, even when some will say, balanced needs balanced ...it is blubber. What you have is a different output or input rating, that's all. And that you can hear when the preamp output is too weak for a balanced amp input for example. But it will not create a distortion.
XLR adaptors are very simple, probably a problematic soldering can produce such a distortion but you can check it easily, you can buy these everywhere.

The Maggie is something I cannot live without. So do the CAT SL1...

Yes, true. But forget SE amps with Mags...these speakers run with nearly everything BUT they love high powered amps. The more power you give them the better they sound. The problem is, high power + good sound is nearly impossible to find. It is the way it is.
When I would run the 3.7 today, I would choose the Lamm Hybrid amps. They bite the bullet.
Although only rated 100 watts and have 8 KT120 power tubes just like the Ref 150, people who have been with CAT still think the JL 5 would be an all round winner. Only when think of the 100 watts JL 5 driving the Maggies which has been known to be extremely power hungry, it's normal for a audiophile to try to think "rational" lol

I listened multiple times to JL5 and I think it is a great amp. Are you ready to buy them unheard? Try to ask a dealer for loan, they won't do it for free but even when you pay the shipping both ways and an extra for the dealer .... this can be cheap when it will support your decision...but I would still do a comparison with a high powered transistor amp to check what is going on with the higher frequencies...