Dirty little secret of Pedigreed, decades old Speaker line - no one will address

My apologies for not commenting earlier as I thought I would be getting emails that new comments were made & I didn’t. No personal axe to grind, just that some very promising technology is being left to rot on the vine. For no reason I can see. No other manufacturer anywhere following their lead in their mr drivers over decades is not somehow dismissable. I finally read what I always suspected from a reviewer in a major magazine that their mr drivers sound scratchy. As to where I get my info - its all there easily attainable in the public sphere. The distributor of YG, GTT sends out a newsletter with videos.  2 of which celebrated the long time sales director of YG leaving & him coming to work with GTT to sell it’s direct competitor, Vivid which does have a dramatically better mr technology.  Dick Diamond the SD & Bill Parish the owner of the the distributor of both & a retailer, standing side by side as DD flat out says he never has been so engaged by the music made by a speaker.  BP conspicuously stood up for YG, not at all. He has went on & on how Vivid is flying out the door.  On video.  You can’t make this stuff up. It’s all easy to see for oneself if you look through their backlog of videos.

Philosophically, I have a problem with major high end audio companies dropping the ball in obviously self sabotaging ways by failing to innovate - yet pretending to.

Just as I do from a somewhat different angle with Wilson, that has come out with nothing genuinely newish since the last iteration of their titanium tweeter in that series. I heard a Wilson Watt/puppy seven that to virtually anyone’s ears blew away a gen 2 Sasha with a silk dome, transparency wise.  One completely wired with Nordost Odin 2 throughout the entire system & Dagostino top of the line electronics at a show. They do nothing but pass down slight improvements from up above to correct problems (such as slightly rolled off high end prior to the V series). They change their cabinet materials constantly with no poof it does anything more beneficial by doing so. The first time they named a new model (The V series) after this unsubstantiated remixing does not bode well.  They will not let the XVX MR & tweeter into even the speaker below it in the range. I could go on. Magico, Rockport & many speakers with ceramic drivers show how it should be done. Marten Logan as well in many key respects. Wilson has lost a lot of their market share & no longer dominates the high end speaker market to nearly the same degree. Despite their massive advertising & ensuring their speakers are irresistibly priced for reviewers.  It's not hard to see why they're losing market share.

I ranted a slot about Krell on AG when it was so obviously degraded by its investment firm owners. Someone from Krell entered the forum discussion to say he agreed but since they walked away (they could not suck any more money from the firm) they had radically redesigned their product to be what it should’ve been & they are indeed now far more respected.

A lot of AG forum contributors are so bright they feel they can get away with beautifully reasoned but too theoretical opinion, that may sound like it OUGHT to be convincing if left unexamined. I try very hard not to do so & to stick to fact where the evidence is more then clear.

SOIX that sounds like anger for its own sake. I never said Magico or Rockport used ceramic drivers. Please reread the sentence you quote . "&" means and (in addition to), not intrinsic to.

Even if I needed writing lessons - focusing on the letter & not the spirit of the truths discussed simply dishonors you & all truths unapologetically no longer reached for.  The point here is not humiliation. That’s for those trying to hurt others in compensation for their own unresolved anxieties/neuroses.

Yes, genuine peace to you in finding positive truths for their own sake.

My post I wrote on 06-05-2024 at 09:23pm explains much of the first principles I'm concerned about & if read at all carefully in particular.  I care about the audio industry & it's integrity that all sonic progress forward depends upon. That's why I mentioned Wilson speakers & their interesting lack in key areas also.  Of course information in the public realm is verified, even if not completely.  It's where one starts to surmise & ask further questions from.  It's a very valuable starting point & the alternative of dismissing it altogether does not accord with any notion of applied curiosity in the name of any sort of objectivity. Zero high end manufacturers (other then YG) over countless decades, using aluminum cone mr drivers amounting to nothing, rather then some kind of something, goes considerably beyond being unlikely as to being insignificant.

To csmgolf - Ralph Waldo Emerson once wrote: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

That & the market hardly sorts out all issues evenly or in every ones interest. Why it might matter to someone who values progress in the audio industry as much as audio journalists who write about just that on our behalf - is not I suggest, a question that should even be asked. All who engage in these forums, ipso facto care in just the way you question.

I've never heard a major high end speaker company not improve when they change their mr drivers. Including Rockport, Magico etc. To not even try bothers me. Yes, I have problems with most aluminum midranges, although Vivid was far, far better then most.  No one mentions my criticisms of Wilson which are at least philosophically related.  YG has done some very interesting things with improving silk domes to be sure.  Stuff Wilson won't even reach for.  YG has done a lot of work on improving their bass drivers too & their xovers were always their claim to fame.  To not do a single thing ever over decades to their mr drivers blows my mind but if it doesn't concern others on AG (even as other manufacturers haven't & won't go near it for decades) then G-d bless. Just because I see a lack of integrity applied here but exercised elsewhere, doesn't mean anyone else is necessarily bound to find it the least bit peculiar & worth noting.  I also notice almost all comments address the spirit of what I'm saying, rather then the technical letter of linguistic correctness - which speaks to the intrinsic integrity & honorableness of most AG contributors.  Worth noting.

Yes, the "dryness" referred to is exactly what I have a prob;em with as far as aluminum drivers, particularly cone midranges. It’s very, very difficult to tame tweeters made of it but it can be done, but not commonly. Bass drivers often work well made of it, but mrs if they’re cones, I’ve never heard sound good & certainly not musical (although with an awful lot of high quality help it can be minimized). That’s my take but many/most agree & the minority that may like/love them I truly wish well. There are a lot of niche audiophiles with tastes strange to the majority & G-d bless em. They keep life interesting & unhomogenized. I don’t perceive YG to be even trying to improve their mrs since day one & into any imminent or distant future. The market seems to be moving away from them (including their own distributor) which may explain why they’re making less expensive versions to sell more. The improvements strike me as moves sideways instead without directly dealing the heart of it. I notice no YG owners (all 20+ yrs of them) stepping up to defend them. It is whatever it is & considerable food for thought.