Digital input amp


I see a few coming on market.  Previous threads were quite old.

They take a USB or other input. No DAC on the front end. Just the DSP engine to do volume, eq, etc, then whatever conversion to PCM to feed the class D output. So the only "DAC" is the output stage.   This makes sense as it further reduces the functions in the chain.  I have not seen objective testing or any reliable subjective testing. The ones I have seen are Infineon processer based. No idea if the output filtering or feedback implementation is up to the Purify quality.   I guess the next innovation is the GaNFET output.  One has a DAC to feed a sub out. Easy as any old $5 DAC will wo there. 

I was browsing and came across the Sajab A30a. ( quite inexpensive)  Peachtree has the old Gan-1 but coax PCM only.  That would be fine if it managed buffering and clocks internally. Unfortunately my all-in-one only has USB out. 

I suspect there is a lot to be learned here but it makes sense to me for the future. 

tvrgeek

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"Doubles the power when reducing impedance"   So what. Any good amp can. 

"Switching, but not class D".  OK,  they did not say what it is though.  

"Exactly like class A"   Nope.  Not at all.

"More efficient" Yea, so is class A/B, G, H and D. 

Again, I hope they are very nice. I hope they have some innovation to add, but their marketing BS you quoted does not give any hint

@tvrgeek I had the same misgivings about that bit from the marketing department. As best I can make out this amp is class T.

This technology HAS NO DAC.

@tvrgeek If this is so, then the amplifier is not also class D. Class D is a very specific class of operation. Since you apparently have a degree, then you know that class D was proposed in the 1950s and the first home implementations were sold in the 1960s. You also know the building blocks required. So pick one: if its class D then it has a DAC built into the same box to which the digital signal arrives prior to the class D circuitry and probably one the same board as the class D section.

If this is false then its not a class D amplifier inside although it might employ switching technology.

Not these designs.  They take a bitstream , do DSP, do the digital conversion to PWM and feed the output. So the actual integrator and filter is the output.  There is no DAC on their input. 

@tvrgeek What you are describing above means that the DAC is at the input of the class D amp portion of the product. Put another way, the PWM portion of the circuit is at the input of a class D amp, not its output.

Digital at its fastest might be 192KHz sampling frequency. Class D amps often switch at 500KHz or higher. You can design a DAC that can produce a PWM output, but it really does have to be at the input of the class D amp in order to work. I know a lot of companies say they have a 'digital amp' but if they also say its class D then the DAC is always at the input to the class D circuitry.

They take a USB or other input. No DAC on the front end. Just the DSP engine to do volume, eq, etc, then whatever conversion to PCM to feed the class D output. So the only "DAC" is the output stage. 

@tvrgeek To be clear, the DAC is at the input of the amp, not the output. Class D is not digital since the switching of the amp does not have meaning whereas the switching of a digital word does. So you have to convert from the latter to the former.