Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?
It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.” And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything? For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think.
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is.
To answer the OP question: a resounding NO. But that’s just me.
What you guys don’t realize (or perhaps you do 😉), this thread does one thing: more (free) advertising for Amir. And that’s exactly what prominent YouTubers want, free publicity. As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity
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So you needed measurements to tell you which pair of interconnects you keep? Blue pill vs. red pill. You couldn’t hear a difference by…. listening to them? Yeah, I know, shocking!
And the same measurements are just as good as Mola Mola Tambaqui on other, way cheaper, DACs, like various Topping. Have you seen the point ranking system he has? So why in the world would you be happy spending $16,000+ in a DAC, when you can get the same measurements and points, and even more points, with a DAC costing a few hundred bucks, a small fraction of your Mola Mola
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Got it. Understand. Perfectly clear now. Carry on. Keep on fighting 💪
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@ossicle2brain : You sound offended. Deeply touched. I am sorry to cause that to you. I meant no harm. What I meant to say is your story: you bought two cables from Amazon which you don't even have a name or a brand. Then you determined which is of the two is best by measuring them. Kudos to you for coming to a conclusion, but I must say, what made you think that another generic cable bought in Amazon would perform any better than the stock cables that come with the equipment? | ||
@tosch : Wow! It took you 23 years since joining Audiogon in 2000 to make your very first post ever here in Audiogon forums! Amazing! | ||
I have zero issues with measurements based music listening & enjoyment as a hobby, but phrases like this, from the Master’s mouth is the problem with all this GREAT debate and bickering:
People should be allowed to express their opinion on any audio gear or system openly and without fearing backlash from the measurements crowd, always trigger happy to spoil the party by throwing & yelling “proof” in their face. also, phrases like this:
Everything with “you don’t know the truth”, or “I show you the truth”, or “only I can fix this” has an element that I don’t particularly perceive as scientific or even delusional. God like.
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Your loss. Man oh man. Did you see those graphs above? Beautiful! Goosebumps by just looking at them. You are missing out
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@audphile1 : the ARC DAC of course. But…. with a twist: grab the ARC, sell it to gullible & deluded (or is it fallacious now, as the Master named them?) audiophile. Buy the Topping DAC brand new with a small portion of the sale proceeds. Save a lot of money, with which you can buy a lot of measurement gadgets. Measure away all your heart wants! 😉 | ||
Yes. Do you ever seat down and just enjoy your music like a normal human being?
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You already said that. 27 times. Which is the entire count of your “contributions” here. I believe you made your point. Everyone got that. Next
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I personally like #3 😉
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@amir_asr : 😂😂😂. All of the sudden, the author of that YouTube video will get millions of views now from your ~ 1.2 Billion followers who view you like Messiah. They will wonder, where the sudden fame came from? 😂 | ||
Cin Dyment aka @othercrazycanuck : you couldn’t help it, could you? As soon as you saw Amir creating his own thread here you immediately rejoined Audiogon, with yet another username. Your 18th if I am not mistaken, but who’s counting… | ||
That’s fine Amir, compared to a superior human being like you, almost of god-like proportions, I am just a monkey. Nothing more nothing less to expect from a professional audio forum writer like you. Meanwhile, let’s just carry on with our things: I will continue to listen to noise and distortions, while you continue to listen to your graphs. | ||
I wonder, if ASR website (Amir Science Review) was so popular, beating every single audio forum & site, including Stereophile, by multiple TIMES, why the owner of that site, the honorable Amir His Majesty, spend so much time here? 50 posts so far on this thread alone in a few days. Daily. Even in weekends. And very long elaborate posts. Nobody wonders why so many men hours that can be spent measuring stuff, and posting in the website he owns? 🤔
Think! | ||
@mahgister : I understand why Amir is doing this but I totally fail to understand why YOU keep doing this. You must know this is simply another platform for Amir’s propaganda. Please stop. And if you ever wander whether you can beat Amir in audio arguments in audio forums and audio social media (and I am not saying audio truths), you are mistaken. You cannot. He invented them | ||
@mapman ?
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@mahgister : can you please ask me what you want with one phrase? You quoted me with a bunch of bombastic statements. I think I was pretty concise on what I asked from you. If you want me to summarize with one word, here it is: stop | ||
@mapman : I make zero money by posting here. Are you not the same? | ||
Nothing. Just the ASR propaganda. Read my question I posted above:
Oh:
Please… let’s not be ridiculous
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@mapman : what is Amir selling in Audiogon? I fail to see any Amir’s items for sale on his profile. Zero items sold either. Do you care to elaborate on your statement ?
https://www.audiogon.com/users/amir_asr
Please explain to me: how does Audiogon make money out of this? Other from deflection of Audiogon users to ASR ( Amir’s own website Amir Science Review). Are you implying Amir is paying Audiogon (under the table) to post here promoting his site?
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@ossicle2brain : I can try to help. What Maggies do you own? What’s the rest of your equipment? What are you looking to replace?
Please post your current system here: https://www.audiogon.com/systems
I love to help you. I will only pick from Amir’s approved lists. No cables will be considered | ||
@amir_asr : On cables. Thank you for answering my question. Case closed. People can figure out for themselves | ||
Good point! I will point this out to the boss. If he is still alive and kicking ass. No worries. He has a good disciple to fight the good fight for 20+ years. Long and healthy life to you
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No engineering background, no audiophile card for you! Damn it! 🤦♂️
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So why do you spend practically your entire valuable time posting here? Instead of your own site which you own in full with practically saint like features 🤦♂️ ‘Help me understand what’s happening on this thread…
You are so nice. Like I said, a saint 🥰
What do you mean? You have lasted here way too long with your propaganda, promoting your own site. Nobody is kicking you out from promoting another sales site (albeit disguised as “science”) | ||
@ossicle2brain : you don’t get it do you? If it measures bad it sounds bad. No need to listen. Period. 🤦♂️
Do what I do. Pick what Amir measures bad. Avoid like a plague what Amir measures good. It works like a charm. Every single time. | ||
@amir_asr : my last comment on this thread as I realized (after being told privately by a couple of people here) that I am simply providing you an opportunity for more of your propaganda. On this you said:
Two conflicting statements in one single paragraph: keep the subjectivity in audio, but then intervene so that very subjectivity (I.e anecdotes) does not “rule the world”. Hmmm….
It’s not so much about what you do in your site, which has clearly value, but it’s your (and your followers’) campaign in all audio forums to shut down every subjective discussion (such a hobbyist simply sharing their listening impressions with each other, on anything audio related). Basically, my (read: Amir’s) way or the highway. It is clear to me you have some kind of urge to fight every single subjective discussion anywhere in the internet, audio forums. The very fact of you posting extensively here in Audiogon , on this thread, while you own the most popular audio site in the world (according to you). You are indeed on a mission, and like all good missionaries throughout history, you need to go places, to spread the word, convert the heretics
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Nope. He does not need to think. He already knows, it comes to him naturally. He absorbs a book, any length, by just staring at it for three seconds 😉 He does not wear a watch. He decides what time it is 😂
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@mapman My man... you appear to be deep into Amir's well, no matter how hard you try to hide it. Just say it and be done with it 😂
I thought you would say "by listening" but, here you are... And this, very bad analogy:
Nope. It's by trying them on. This can be in fitting room at the store, or order a bunch online and pick the best AFTER you try them on. Say you are 36/32 on pants size. Are you saying any pants that are of that size would just fit you the same? 😁
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