Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

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The thing that intrigues me is that the High-End crowd would rather endorse this kind of review :

"The key observation about the effect of five Blackbody v2s on duty in my room narrows down to the way how the two used speaker sets rendered space there. The entire view grew a touch more anchored and denser in both cases, but higher humidity was the most obvious change. The air in-between key sound sources felt rich and fragrant just like before a storm. The overall vibe was less dry and chiseled. Instrumental and vocal shapes struck me as more moist and bloomier than before, while their outlines became somewhat thicker. Sound audibly leaned towards the extra color, boldness and aroma rather than twitchiness, sparks, elasticity and high contrast. Increased relaxation and less prickly incisiveness followed. Considering all this, Blackbody V2 was groomed to fit the usual LessLoss noise-killing profile indeed, so enjoyably familiar. The fact that the theory behind it raises quite a few eyebrows doesn’t change that."

Link to review

The above review from the HiFi Knights website to me is utter nonsense.  Not only is it just a deluge of meaningless superlatives.  The possibility of some metal discs occupying the same room as your sound equipment creating audible effects is preposterous.  This should be obvious to any rational person.  However, the Audiophile class just seems to eat up this type of subjective "testing".  Not only that, they will purchase these types of devices and "hear" the effects.  

I have participated in a few HiFi and Audiophile forums and always found that there is a cadre of individuals who are prepared to hate someone offering technical advice on audio equipment as it contradicts their world view.  The example above of Amirs measurements of the Neumann monitors is exactly the type of information I would want prior to purchasing any (costly) audio product.  The last thing I would consider is purchasing a product based on someone using words like "humidity" or "bloomier" to describe it.

 

So much frothing and veins popping out on foreheads!  Mahgister, you win the prize my friend!  Your outpourings are truly epic and everything I have come to expect from the golden-ear brigade.  And you call an ASR member a zealot?  Take a look in the mirror!  The only reason to remove this thread would be because it's hacking over so much diatribe that's gone on between the objective and subjective side of audio reproduction on HiFi systems ad nauseum for decades.  The fact is that you are either using your equipment to listen to music or using music to listen to your equipment.  Personally I'm from the former camp.  I enjoy music and have listened to it on a range of gear from very expensive to downright poverty spec and do you know what?  Every time I listen to something I like, it's still the thing I like.  It's not a live performance and no conventionally produced recording can match that.  The reason it can't match it is the amount of processes the recording passes through on its way to being a finished product.  Subsequently, its a moot point as to what combination of expensive audio gear can come the closest to reproducing a live performance, none of it can.  I recently started a discussion about speakers on ASR and my assertion was that the search for the "perfect" speaker was a pointless exercise.  To back this up, I illustrated the broad range of speaker designs and design philosophy, not to mention materials and electronics.  There is such variety in this technology that to declare one the "best" in not practical or honest.  As many have pointed out here, it comes down to your personal experience and what you think is best, nobody else's .  Personally, I'm really happy with the Q Audio speakers I just picked up for $275 and the little Class D Bluetooth amp I hooked up to them mainly because I just want a nice, room filling sound, not loud not impressive, just nice to listen to music with. I did some research, mainly on the speakers and for the money, they looked ideal for my purposes.  The amp, well I just followed the latest chip tech and tried not to buy an amp with something obsolete inside it.  I used a cut up shaver cord for speaker cables and paired the rig to my phone to listen to my Spotify playlists.  That's it, nice, simple, cheap, sounds good, no distortion (that I can perceive) and now I have the music I like in my living room. Happy.