Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

Showing 4 responses by j_livingston

I think the Erin fellow is just another YouTube person and I don’t put anymore stock in his opinion than the next guy. However, I’ve seen Amir make some claims about Erin’s and others that I find out of line. I’ve seen Amir do many things he accuses Erin (and others) of. We can use simple objective facts to prove this.

 

Amir says Erin’s video was removed because it was clickbait and he doesn’t want anyone to earn money by having their videos shared on ASR. As someone who has perused ASR a number of times this doesn’t make sense. Why? Well, there are countless threads that are shared on ASR by members - seemingly with the intention of making fun of them - where Amir engages. From GR Research to Goldensound to John Darko. Here are two recent examples:

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/how-not-to-set-up-speakers-and-room-treatment-goldensound.45104/

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/power-cable-tech-talk-and-a-little-help-for-amir-at-audio-science-review.45064/

 

Both of those threads are still open - after weeks - and have generated no telling how many views by the ASR membership. If Amir is truly worried about someone making money by getting views through ASR then why doesn’t Amir delete/close those threads? The answer is plainly simple but let me give some background first.

 

The fact is someone shared Erin’s video because they thought it was interesting and asked others to comment. Amir called it clickbait and put Erin down.* Many members disagreed with Amir. Amir got upset at that and then closed the thread after putting his last word in. In other words: anyone can share any links to anyone’s YouTube videos or website as long as it is done with the purpose of making fun of that person. In the case of Erin’s video that wasn’t what happened and Amir didn’t like that. So he closed the thread. After he intentionally derailed it with his off-topic remarks.

 

This makes it pretty clear to see that Amir just doesn’t like Erin and used "clickbait" as an excuse to lock the thread. If he meant what he said he’d lock and/or delete every other single thread with external links or things he thinks are harmful to the community. For someone reason, rather than helping to encourage others to look at objective data through other sources, Amir has chosen to create false narratives around those outlets so that his viewership will take his side. When it backfires, that is when Amir gets upset.

 

 

As for clickbait, let’s all remember how many back-and-forth videos Amir has created about Danny @ GR Research and Paul McGowan @ PS Audio. Amir knew those would get views. He says "my audience asked me to make this video". This is proof he knew he would get views by creating additional drama and tension in the audio community while also being an excuse for creating said content. A single video on the topic would have been adequate but he continued to play in the mud because he knew it would get him views. One of his written reviews of GR Research speakers even had the words "a joke" in the title.** Talk about clickbait.

 

Let’s not also forget that Amir was recently belittled by Steve Guttenberg - while Steve was speaking at AXPONA 2023 - for not having as many subscribers as Steve does. This was brought up in a thread on ASR. Steve was asked his view on measurements. Steve made a snide remark about Amir not having as many followers (without saying Amir’s name, which is childish on its own). So, what does Amir do in response? He asks his viewers to subscribe and like to get his numbers up so he can have better "influence in the YouTube world".*** Despite him having said previously and even in this thread that he doesn’t do this sort of thing.

 

It is plain to see that Amir doesn’t like Erin and uses any reason he can to justify his logic even when it clearly goes against his other actions such as failure to delete/close other threads which contain links through ASR and his own part in playing "the game" by creating content he knows will create drama and fuel views, asking for donations, asking for likes/subscribers all while running a business that sells various brands. No matter how big a disclaimer he puts on it he’s still generating interest and driving potential sales through his channel to his own business. A single speaker sold through Madrona Digital is far more than most of these YouTube guys make in a week. Some even a month.

 

I have no issue with anyone monetizing their efforts as long as there is transparency. Unfortunately, Amir criticizes others for doing all the things he says he doesn’t do. These are facts and easy to verify with simple searches online. I’ve provided some below. But Amir and (some of) his dedicated followers conveniently ignore all these objective facts and cast doubt on others so they can prop Amir up as the only person capable of providing honest and accurate reviews. Amir cannot say all these things about others and expect us to ignore the fact he does the exact same things.

 

- J

 

 

 

* Link: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/erins-top-5-speakers-regardless-of-price-june-2023.45988/post-1639855

** Link: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/gr-research-lgk-2-0-speaker-review-a-joke.34783/

*** Link: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/gr-research-b24-ac-cable-review-follow-up-entertainment.45452/

Quote: If you have not already, please go to my youtube page and subscribe. It won’t make me any money but will work to improve our influence in youtube world:

I see Amir has created a thread on ASR that there is a 25% off deal on Revel Be products.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/revel-be-series-discounted-by-25.46219/

 

And what is one brand Amir’s company - Madrona Digital - sells? You guessed it! Revel products. But didn’t Amir say he doesn’t monetize ASR in any way (pssst... let’s ignore memberships and patreon)? Oh, fret not, he doesn’t make any money off that. And trust him, no one calls his business wanting to buy Revel speakers because they focus on custom integration and no one really buys speakers from him. So there’s zero conflict of interest there. Right? Right?

 

I would laugh, truly, if it weren’t so clearly hypocritical and obvious to anyone with half a brain that Amir espouses behavior that he himself condemns.

Edit: As I said earlier, I don’t begrudge anyone making money as long as they are honest with their audience (or in Amir’s case, honest with themselves). Amir will say he makes a comment on all his reviews that his company sells Revel and that’s all the disclaimer he needs. I agree. But he chastises every single other reviewer who does essentially the same (i.e., advertising, YouTube monetization, affiliate links which are labeled clearly, etc). Amir sells many brands. He is no different than anyone else (who puts a disclaimer on their site or review or otherwise are transparent about monetization). Absolutely no different. He somehow thinks he is, though. That’s scary.

 

Even more timely:

I see something similar that has happened to his other targets happening right now with some of the headphone guys where Amir, in typical Amir fashion, is going out of his way to subvert their efforts and calling into question not just their measurements but even their integrity. How people don’t see this for what it is, a means to control the narrative in his favor, is truly baffling to me. How Amir chooses to see everyone as a competitor to him rather than letting discussion flow is also baffling. Can’t have anyone favoring another reviewer over Amir now can we?

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/resolves-b-k-5128-headphone-target-you-can-try-the-eqs.43209/page-34

 

I just shake my head in disbelief at how he continues to behave and show his frail ego so publicly. It’s pathetic and sickening at the same time.

@amir_asr you have said multiple times that:

Go ahead and spam this forum with sponsored links and see how long you last.

 

You have continually posted snippets of your reviews with direct links to your website here and even one of your own videos*! (link below for bookkeeping)

 

 

On a single page (page 18) of this discussion I counted where you have provided FOUR links to your website. A website where you ask for donations after every review. There are numerous other posts by you in this thread where you have linked to your own website but I won’t bother to count them. If you consider posting one’s reviews to ASR as "spamming with sponsored links" then you, sir, are doing the exact same thing. I don’t care if you make zero money from anything you have ever done... you are still spamming this very forum with your own reviews. Multiple times a page. Yet you talk about others spamming forums. It’s comical.

 

Yet, you are still here. No one has banned you or deleted those partciular posts. Nor has a moderator come in and closed the thread. But by your own implied admission above, you should have expected it to happen.

 

Once again, however, I am certain you will rationalize your posts as being something different. A diversion attempt, as it were. And yet another example of your extreme hypocrisy.

 

 

* https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2582036

At this point, for me, it’s more about pointing out his hypocrisy to others so they can understand how he operates and his true motivations.

 

His data is fine (for the most part). But the person and the means of how he tries to separate himself by others by discriminating against or degrading them otherwise is not something I will let slide. I’ve never liked bullies in all my years.  Now that I've retired I don't mind spending my time exposing them when I see them. And Amir is exactly that. Anyone who doesn’t agree with him or gets more recognition than he does is suddenly an enemy of his even when their share the same goal of providing technical information to an audience. I’ve seen him do this countless times and is doing so again as I mentioned regarding a thread on the 5128 headphone measurement rig where he is currently belittling other headphone reviewers to make himself look better than them. :(