Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

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It is very simple : we can see with our ears but we cannot hear with our eyes» --Groucho Marx becoming blind 🤓

 

Alrighty then, blame the game on selective eye hearing ... apparently we need more training listening to each other.

Until this is learned and really internalized, certain audiophiles will continue to make the wrong choices in their selection of audio gear.

 

You’re a fast talker ... so I thought I’d insert a possible typo.

I do agree this conversation is probably just going nowhere.

I’ve asked myself this same question endless times. Okay, rewind & repeat ... reread all posts, maybe I’ve overlooked some eluded wording of importance in search of an elusive common ground amongst certain members or (all members). Amir, by adding "certain" to your already written sentence was by no means a insult. It’s more than welcomed there in observance of & considering where we are. Give me something tangible to work with please. And for the record, I have never once said here on this forum are anywhere else for that matter regarding "Science" as unworthy. 

Eyes can be overrated @mahgister. If a personal life changing decision were made deciding whether eyes over ears are kept, these eyes would see the chopping block, pronto! Imagine a life without the music. No thanks ....

Eyery time this word appears can’t help but bust out laughing hysterically.

biased ... is a cancerous Witch word.

And might may I ask ... from what part of thee Cosmos does "something" find its way.

@amir_asr, precisely.

As to Musicians, while they hearing does get trained in certain areas (e.g. detection of reflections in a room), they do no better than general public when it comes to matters related to audio fidelity. If they did better, then they would mostly be audiophiles which they decidedly are not. My piano teacher for example just gives me blank looks when I talk about anything related to audio fidelity! Musicians listen to music from a spot in the performance venue that is different than us as listeners anyway.

As first hand personal experience (son / musician / music lover) proves this to be factual. For I’ve tested his audio fidelity limitations and my conclusion always stands … Clearly one who enjoys better fidelity playback however, in the pursuit (insert various levels) which we / all strive for is of very little interest or concern.