Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

@amir_asr 

Clearly it does bother you. You are still here. LAUGH OUT LOUD. You have explained everything you ever could about what your website does, and revealed everything it doesnt do through your snobbery. The fact that you cant see your elitism shows you have a blindspot the size of Texas. You just want the last word which you don't seem to be getting. 

Here is a "review" from ASR. Amir doesn't even share whether he would recommend it. Just says vote with your eyes.

A company sends you a $20,000 test pair and you can't even be bothered to listen. 

"As I noted, due to lack of time, I do not have listening impressions for you." How the @#!$ do you evaluate a speaker without that? I would love to see a car review without driving it. Astonishing.

@amir_asr Why don’t you address your old contradictions that @soundfield is pointing out

@soundfield I am you according to Amir

Hey @amir_asr are you going to reply to soundfield? Pretty amazing how you switch your entire ethos. 

@amir_asr You are way off base here. I do want independent evaluation. I want scientific research. I want to enjoy audio. I’m not subjectivity or objectively preferential. They both influence the other. Go back to pro audio. They all want a speaker that measures flat. They all want less distortion. More clarity. All of the things you tout as the holy grail. Yet, and yet, they find some speakers to be more pleasing to them. Some monitors are better at showing them the mix. Some want passive. Others lean toward active designs. If your reviews were the end all be all of objectivity then producers would pick all of your best recommendations. But they don’t. Neumann is liked, so is genelec. What speaker do I hear more than any other constantly touted as the best? atc. I’m going to wade into the data and guess they wouldn’t measure as well but people prefer using them.

You don’t get it. I was a huge fan and supporter of yours. I talked to you on several occasions. I even was considering donating to your “cause”. Not now. You are rude, you belittle people and think your opinion is better. Your are everything you described in that last paragraph and can’t see it. I’m not dogmatic. I start with every audio component with an open mind and eliminate or buy it if it fits in my system. I am human as are you I think. And you want to strip psychology out of something that is dependent on it. Your brain is the first and only tool you use to evaluate everything. And it’s misguiding you. You can’t see the forest.

I’ve been practicing what you yourself preach for longer than you have. I bought into the ruler flat fr of most pro gear before it was what it is now, because if the producers use it then I want to hear how it was intended to be heard. But you can’t eliminate the last 25% of the equation which is entirely subjective. You think you can but you aren’t a robot.

@prof I don’t think I saw anyone say Amir was the only rude one. Amir continually points out why everyone else is wrong, but him. How is that possible? It’s not. From the first comment he made on this thread, it has been him telling everyone why they are wrong while avoiding any hard hitting questions. He then spams links to his website, and promotes himself all the while saying no forum allows that which is why he has to ban other people on his website who do what he does and shuts down threads. He then claims that this is because they are on YouTube and it needs to stay on Youtube. BS. He doesnt like the competition.

@soundfield pointed to two old posts Amir made one was about how he didnt level match here is the quote

I did not level match anything. However, once I found one source was worse than the other, I would then turn up the volume to counter any effect there. Indeed, doing so would close the gap some but it never changed the outcome. Note that the elevated level clearly made that source sound louder than the other. So the advantage was put on the losing side.

And the other was from his own companies website where he promotes at the time $50,000 per pair amplifiers which he still uses in his system. You can see it in the picture he posted in this very discussion.

He has not reviewed the very amp that is in his reference system as far as I can tell. He has not addressed any of the above. Why the change of heart? He claims to be this objective evangelist, but you dont get to claim that while ignoring a different story of the past.

The lack of accountability on his part is remarkable. I don’t run a website promoting data and objectivity when he consistently avoids the harder hitting questions and denies any other people of his ilk to talk about their methods on his website. Erin was banned.

@amir_asr How do you promote rigorous ABX testing when you admit you did not do that in the past? How do you not have numbers up for your current amp?

@prof No he doesnt have to admit wrongdoing, but he never is wrong. I have yet to see it. His record is unmatched in that regard. See the above. He cherry picks things to support his agenda, and then doesnt acknowledge the subjective side. I pointed out a review where he didnt do a listening test on a $20,000 speaker, which at the beginning of this whole forum chat he said he does for every speaker because listening tests matter. For that TAD speaker, he said he didnt have time. Which is it? You cant have it both ways. He might be doing well in some respects, but answering that, and why oh why he previously said he doesnt level match but now is religious about it, is suspect. See how he didnt respond to my questions? instead he responded to someone else's. He wont and then I will have to ask again. That is what we call gaslighting. He then can say LOOK, this guy is being rude and unkind repeatedly harassing poor Amir. NO! He is not being transparent. 

He routinely kicks people off of ASR like Erin from Erin's Audio Corner, who I have not seen do anything worth being kicked off for. That is subjectivity. Why not let the people figure out what angle is better. By the way Erin has the same measurement tool and is after objective results. You would think Amir would want to combine forces. No his ego gets in the way. 

You are an Amir apologist. You say you arent but then all I see you do is defend him, except for that 1/100 moment you showed me a while back. 

@prof I quoted this discussion AJ pointed to

I did not level match anything. However, once I found one source was worse than the other, I would then turn up the volume to counter any effect there. Indeed, doing so would close the gap some but it never changed the outcome. Note that the elevated level clearly made that source sound louder than the other. So the advantage was put on the losing side.

About the listening test believe it or not, I didnt cherry pick. I am actually looking at the smaller bookshelf 3 way design TAD and so I searched. Interested I read the review. I did no hunting. Now I have done hunting and it does seem to be more the exception to the rule. However a lot of the listening tests seem rushed or like an afterthought. This is why I like Erin's Audio Corner. His subjective listening is first. What he thought about it. Then the objective comes into play. It's unique because he gives the conclusion first. 

@prof and if you think Amir isnt promoting ASR on here, something he staunchly is opposed to on his website, I dont know what to tell you

@amir_asr @amir_asr @amir_asr Why then do you not give that same courtesy and hospitality to Erin? You are something else.

@laoman  I am all for that

@amir_asr what do you have to say about your old post where you say you level match anything?

@amir_asr 

@texbychoice just read @kevn musings and I think you are right. Very well said. I have learned from @mahgister too, so I agree it would be a pity to close this. People needs to see who Amir is warts and all, and it certainly helped me identify my own biases. 

@kevn you really write well and I love your meditation on audio

Yeah I’m in the camp now of leaving it up. Amir wants this to be deleted. He spammed this thread and now is praising the moderators. Hey @amir_asr you still haven’t answered why you used to not level match!