Your original title may be quite apt Denaf"rips".
I don't think anyone would deny, Alvin and Vinshine have played a significant role in making Denafrips what they are today. With Denafrips recent mishandling of the 15th versions of DACs, the launch of 12th-1 so soon after the 12th; they are not exactly endearing themselves to their customer base. Quite precarious for them what with an expanding choice of R2R DACs these days. Time will tell