Denafrips Terminator vs. Venus


I was wondering if any members (non Denafrips dealers) have had first hand personal experience listening / living with these two DACs from Denafrips. The Terminator is universally acclaimed while Venus is much less talked about. I understand physically the Terminator has 2 transformers and better chassis separation.

I found a page on the Denafrips' site with two Youtube videos for comparison, but can't hear a difference through headphones. Anyone been able to compare them back to back in the same system?
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@eugene78

thank you so much for sharing your comments regarding Venus vs Terminator. I’m in the market for a DAC and these are what I’m looking at:

Metrum Pavane Level 3
Denafrips Terminator
Denafrips Venus
Holo Audio Spring 2 KTE
Lumin T2

Haven’t heard any other DACs mentioned above. But heard the Metrum Amethyst and loved it’s sound signature, imaging. However it lacked bass definition, had narrow soundstage and lacked speed/attack/impact. 

can you please share your thoughts on the other DACs compared to Terminator? If you have listened to any of them. 
Any comments/thoughts from other gentlemen (or women) members are highly welcomed and appreciated :)


@divertiti

I notice some difference in the videos from the OP. The sound signature is the same, but Termi seems to be more at ease and drives with authority. I notice the difference mostly in vocals and the chimes (not sure if chimes is the right word)

Do not agree Conos1983.  I'll support an earlier honest comment that the Terminator and Venus sounded NO different in the 2 poorly recorded videos.  I do not know how and through what equipment chain the YouTube recording was made, but it was NOT thru a professional chain, which would be the ONLY way to achieve sonic results that would lend themselves to a fair comparison.  The treble was painful to listen to, while the 'so called' acoustic piano sounded like a dirt cheap electronic acoustic sample using 30 yr old sample technology.  The attack and decay of that piano was anything but realistic.  BUT AGAIN, I attribute the poor audio in the videos to the manner in which the 2 videos were recorded....probably thru an I-phone or some other non-professional digital recorder.  

You awakened a 3 yr old thread to respond to a guy with only 3 posts himself and hasn’t even been here in 3 yrs.

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