DENAFRIPS DAC ---- Owner Impressions, Feedback, General Discussion, Questions and more....


Thread for OWNER IMPRESSIONS, FEEDBACK, QUESTIONS, ETC. regarding DENAFRIPS DACs.

DENAFRIPS lists the following R2R DACs:

Ares, Pontus, Venus, and Terminator (in increasing price order).

"DENAFRIPS incorporated in year 2012, focus in developing high end audio equipment at a very affordable price. Throughout the years of intense Research & Development, and continuous improvement of the product lines, DENAFRIPS had finally settled with the current product range equipped with R-2R ladder DAC technology. The reason behind this is the designer strongly believe that R-2R DAC is the best way to reproduce music.

The name, DENAFRIPS, stand for:

D-ynamic
E-xquisite
N-atural
A-ttractive
F-idelity
R-efined
I-ntoxicating
P-ure
S-ophisticated

This mean a lot and it is the house-sound of all DENAFRIPS products." [Copied From Denafrips About Us section]
david_ten

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 jayctoy wrote: Since my Ares is broken in, when I bought it.i am hearing the imaging of onyx Metrum which is excellent.slam and transient good as well. Layering is very close to my Gumby in my second system.

@jayctoy, quick question. What kind of preamp or monitor control are you using with the Ares? Thanks.

@jayctoy  Quick question what power cord are you using to replace the stock one? The stock one I have for the Ares is "E55943LL41230 I-SHENG 10A 125V 27.00118.011-R Power Cable, IS-14" should be good enough right?
@philipwu wow didn't realize how bad it was, I would figure a power cable is a power cable for that rating of 10A 125V, while a regulated power supply would be the only upgrade I could make for a difference in sound quality. If @jayctoy uses another cable that works I would be happy to consider it.

Would you guys advocate for replacing this power cable to claim that a better linear/regulated power supply can improve the accuracy of the internal clock of the DAC? Or such as to improve the analogue output by various means?

If a linear power supply doesn't seem like a necessity, I'll be more than happy to replace it with a better power supply as recommended.

Thanks,

Reggy
I suppose, it would have been shame and unprofessional to include one with the reference model. If the customer is supposedly going to spend as much as $6000, they will surely be scrupulous on the power supply they choose. So I get it. Whether it really makes a difference even for the top model I have no claim on that, you'd think though it would be worthy of something better than the generic one.


So OK, even for the Ares I suppose to keep costs as low as possible you would also tend to ship a generic one, not that I thought it was a bad choice in the first place. I have yet to get responses and research on the alternatives although it does sound silly to hunt for something that could better it.
Ok thanks, I'll take a look into those, so where power cables matter the most is in the DAC right? Just to let you know, I'm not looking into lowering the noise floor so to speak although if it does that for the DAC and the music it outputs and overall clarity then that's great. I'm more interested in providing more dynamics and contrast within the music itself from the DAC doing it's job.

To let you know my active studio monitors (Genelec 8040B) are the ones I am using, I just checked and surprise surprise they came with QP-007 C13 18 SVT, SVT Shielded, SJT, SJT Shielded, SJTW, SJTW Shielded flexible AWG power cables each. http://productspec.ul.com/canada/document.php?id=ELBZ7.E183417
Made by QUEEN PUO ELECTRICAL CO LTD in Tawan.

Now I'm deviating a bit now - From an average person these speakers rock, for an audiophile in the music industry they are mid grade speakers, good none the less.
When I turn the speakers on with only the power cords connected they have a particularly low noise floor to my ears, obviously if I put my ear to the cones at about 2 ft I begin to hear the static albeit perfectly fine.

So already my speakers have generic power cables. To upgrade the DAC's PC and not the speakers would not defeat the purpose right?

So thanks for the recommendations and I'll do my research and perhaps take them up for the future, all that I'm skeptical about is, will I really hear a difference in my setup? I certainly won't be in the business of replacing the power cords for my speakers and I am just wondering in my mind will the only power cord replacement be worthy for the DAC? If so that's great. But if it is about being all OCD about certain components of my system, and given the fact that the Genelec's are to be robust in many listening environments the conclusion might be that other audiophile setups will be particular sensitive to the DAC, unlike mine and will show to make a larger impact on hearing the performance of the cable. 

It's all relative, I think my speakers I great, but if your setup is a mile ahead than I believe you would be able to hear more of a difference than mine. 

So in the end my question was other than noise floor of the speakers, what overall differences could I potentially hear, and if I could still hear them if I decide to (keep no matter what) the generic power cables connected to the Genelecs?

 



Very well, I'll take that into consideration for the listening process.

I did my research and went for this one:

Pangea Audio AC 14SE MKII Signature Power Cable 3.0 Meter

I'll do an ABX test and let you know, there seems to be a lot of claim off Amazon that it makes a difference, although from experience with computer reviews the reviews didn't help me off Amazon.

I also bought a Monoprice USB-A to USB-B 2.0 Cable - 28/24AWG, Gold Plated, Black, 3ft 6ft and 10 ft cables.

Will let you know after extensive listening if these make a difference!

Thanks,

Reggy


@limniscate , I can't wait to hear your impressions of the upgraded Yggy 2 to the Terminator. I have the Ares, and I can readily be impressed my the emotion and musicality. That aside, and as engaging and nice it sounds, it still is lacking in the microdynamics and overall technicalities  I believe, and can be largely mistaken as great sounding when the neutral landscape of all the music is tilted towards the emotional and musical aspect when I play over my speakers. 

I am curious to see how much better the Terminator is, and whether people really know what they are talking about when they say it is that good. I'm sure it sounds really nice however are we missing some of the microdetails and subtleties when compared to a bit perfect Yggy? 

Please let me know your impressions for your enjoyments, as well as the technical performance compared to the Terminator when you get it.  

Thanks,

Reggy.