Dealers hijacking the discussions


I’m a very long term member and look at the forums most every day. I’m personally extremely irritated by dealers injecting sales pitches into the discussions which has never really been a problem before. Dealers are biased as it’s the nature of business and this is fine but I don’t go to audiogon to see shameless promotion. There’s one guy in particular that needs to go away. The fact that you’ll all know who it is says volumes about the amount of posting this guy/dealer does on audiogon. Does anyone feel as I do. Just curious.
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Dave, I do own and love Vandersteen's.  Doesn't make me a shill as all.  Not even close.  Stop bringing me into your conversations please.  

I am just a disabled/retired Naval Commander who's been in and around audio since 1969. Thanks 
Yup.  You've had a fun set of careers man!  For those who don't know, I sold my Basis rig to Tomic this past year.  We've talked a bunch and much of it about our hobbies outside of audio.  Just another passion for the forums.  I"ve gotten to meet some great folks so far from designers, to shop owners to fellow audiophiles.  Tons of fun for someone who often has to stay home and can't socialize.
Agree with Tomic.  Thanks to all of you guys who served.  Very cool. I was friends with everyone on the ship.  Being the Repair Office, I had a ball.  I was able to help with the fixing of the ship after we collided with that Victor Class, Soviet sub in March of 84.  That was a crazy time.

As far as dealers go, yes, you need to point that out in every post you make. I had no clue that you were a dealer based on your name.  How could I?  Many folks have names that could sound like a dealer when you think about it.  Thanks.
Most don't have a problem with you naming your store either Jim. That's free advertising, lol....and not pushing etc...  :)
I love many dealers.  They are all trying to make a living and that now means figuring out how to use all social media to their advantage.  I get that and resect that as most on here do. It's when it become's blatant selling that it's a distraction from a thread etc...

Those of us who are 'fanboys' ( I do hate that term) of a certain product we own or want to own, will always post about it in threads.  Many folks are very active posters and are known for what we love etc..., but most who are fan boys have also auditioned a TON of gear to get to what our ears like.  We realize that others hear differently and will become fanboys of their own products etc...  That's what I love about the forums.  I have learned about so many other pieces of gear other than what I own and I've changed my system a more than I ever did before because of it.  

I haven't purchased one item, due to a dealer or manufacturer hawking it on this or any other site.  It's because I trust my ears (or even the ears of two close friends who I've met here) and know what I want.  When we all upgrade, that doesn't mean that we don't still love what we used to own, it just means we are blessed to be able to find something even better and can afford it.  

This is why I love the exchanges between average Joe posters like myself.  I know some, but not all the dealers or manufacturer's, so I'm in the camp that they must put into their signature who they are.  Many of you have mentioned folks who are just sharing to share and not to sell, I love it.  Charles Hansen was one of the best at doing that as well as guys like Ralph and others.  

It's funny, but I haven't read or posted as much as I used to and partly because of being turned off a bit.  LEt's see if some folks change their style of posting a bit as it seems like many would love that.
Oddiofyl, what do you mean contacting you?  I thought they were only supposed to post and that they had some rules about selling directly from this forum.  Why would they contact you, unless it's to directly sell?  Please clarify.  Thanks.
Guys, I think the thread is about dealers and manufacturer's who use the internet for all or most of their marketing.  It's pretty blatant that they do this.  Many of us are fan boys (I still hate that term), but are open and change our systems when we hear better.  I know I do all the time. I may not even own a piece of Ayre gear within the next 6 months as I have found other products I like more and it makes sense for me to change.  

That's called growth.  That's why it's great o be on here and meet folks and find out about gear I'd never know about.  I don't mind dealers doing the same, but not when they reach out on PM's to sell their stuff or when every post comes off as a commercial.  That's what folks are not happy about based on the feedback on the threads adn especially this one.  
Bob, that sucked.  I can't even go into it.  Not on this board anyways.  
Yes, that's what others call a fanboy.  Hate the term as 80% of the posters are fanboys or women then.  why buy your products if you don't love them.  
lmao,  No divorce at all.  Love their gear and I may still keep the AX5/20.  It's about whether I can afford the 15k for the new Vandersteen amp.  I'd then also need a good preamp.  I have to see if there is one in the 5k range, but that is a subject for another thread.  

Bob, I was over that loss within a few hours.....NOT.....:).   IT will always be there as a lost chance at a NC.  I take ribbing well btw, so keep it coming ;).

As for dealers, Hi Fi Buys in Atlanta is a GREAT dealer.  They offer many top lines and actually ask questions to find what best suits YOU and not THEM.  They don't think about how any points they earn when they sell gear.  Alan is a great guy I'm told.  Never met him, but have emailed with him.  Tell him Pete sent you and he'll laugh I bet.  If I ever have a chance, I hope to get there.  Lot's of my friends have bought all types of gear there.

Bob, as for an Ayre preamp with Vandersteen mono's, I can't afford it, lol.  I only need a balanced, remote volume control.  Very simple, but it's really not as few make anything like this.  I may ask someone I know who knows what they are doing to make one.  I really need to see if my The Memory Player's volume control will work. I know it's digital, but they implement this thing so differently than anything else I"ve heard so maybe it will work.  Heck, I PRAY it does as then I can afford to make a move to the Vandersteen amps or even the Gryphon amps that are exceptional.  
Bob, I asked about them separating them. They can't. Not designed that way, plus I need to money from the sale to pay for the new amps ;).....  I have never head a digital volume control sound nearly as good and dynamic as a good preamp.  That said, I've never heard TMP's volume control and Mark said that it's a revolutionary design. I"ve never heard of one designed this way.  I was told by a designer of very high end gear that IF it works the way he claims that it may just be as transparent as most of the higher end preamps.  If that's teh case and I don't lose anything, then it's the easiest way for me as I can just use the app to control it all and I don't need a connection (getting rid of the AQ WEL balanced cable and the Niagara one if so).  So many reasons for me to want to use just TMP for everything, but I"m skeptical until I heard it a bit for myself.
Thanks Tomic.  I really was impressed with my email interaction with him and anyone I've sent who have purchased some very expensive stuff has loved him.